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China and increasingly India are building very affordable EVs. You can get this guy for $7700, or full-featured models from $10,000: https://driveauthority.com

China and increasingly India are building very affordable EVs. You can get this guy for $7700, or full-featured models from $10,000: https://driveauthority.com/cheapest-ev-car-in-china/ https://driveauthority.com/cheapest-ev-car-in-china/ All you really need is a political snap of the fingers to remove tariffs, so they can start selling them in the US. Of course, there is absolutely no way this will happen with the current administration.

leosanchez 7mo ago
Yeah seeing more and more 2W, 3W and 4W in India along with rooftop solar which government subsidizes. Mind you I am living in a Tier 4 “city”.
arzig 7mo ago
All the EV tariffs are staying place past the end of the Trump administration because protectionism is now bipartisan.
- seanmcdirmid 7mo ago
  > All the EV tariffs are staying place past the end of the Trump administration because protectionism is now bipartisan. Anything Trump supported will continue to be seen as hot garbage after he is removed from office. There is no appetite for protectionism when it has hurt rather than benefitted the American economy.
- Pxtl 7mo ago
  That heavily depends on the Dem primaries. I think after the unpopularity of Biden and the 2024 loss by Harris there might be more appetite to rock the boat instead of getting another establishment caretaker. However, the more radical wing of Democrats still have some anti-globalism in them (eg Bernie). But still, imho: Unusual outcomes are on the table for Democratic party leadership at this point.
tlogan 7mo ago
I 100% understand that nothing will be done on the federal level. But california is big enough to make things moving without any federal level law. For example, what about: - no sales taxes on new EV sales - free registration for 5 years - free bridge tolls for 5 years That might convince some of these companies to start making EVs again.
- nxm 7mo ago
  They’ll make up the lost revenue by additional taxes on the common people?
  - tlogan 7mo ago
    I do not know. It is all about priorities. Raise taxes on gas? Put extra taxes on sell ICE vehicles? Increase registration fees for ICE vehicles? (In short - ICE sales will paying for money lost via EV sales) I’m not saying it will be easy. I’m saying that if we really want EVs to succeed we can do it.

leosanchez 7mo ago

Yeah seeing more and more 2W, 3W and 4W in India along with rooftop solar which government subsidizes. Mind you I am living in a Tier 4 “city”.

arzig 7mo ago

All the EV tariffs are staying place past the end of the Trump administration because protectionism is now bipartisan.

seanmcdirmid 7mo ago
> All the EV tariffs are staying place past the end of the Trump administration because protectionism is now bipartisan. Anything Trump supported will continue to be seen as hot garbage after he is removed from office. There is no appetite for protectionism when it has hurt rather than benefitted the American economy.
Pxtl 7mo ago
That heavily depends on the Dem primaries. I think after the unpopularity of Biden and the 2024 loss by Harris there might be more appetite to rock the boat instead of getting another establishment caretaker. However, the more radical wing of Democrats still have some anti-globalism in them (eg Bernie). But still, imho: Unusual outcomes are on the table for Democratic party leadership at this point.

tlogan 7mo ago

I 100% understand that nothing will be done on the federal level. But california is big enough to make things moving without any federal level law. For example, what about: - no sales taxes on new EV sales - free registration for 5 years - free bridge tolls for 5 years That might convince some of these companies to start making EVs again.

nxm 7mo ago
They’ll make up the lost revenue by additional taxes on the common people?
- tlogan 7mo ago
  I do not know. It is all about priorities. Raise taxes on gas? Put extra taxes on sell ICE vehicles? Increase registration fees for ICE vehicles? (In short - ICE sales will paying for money lost via EV sales) I’m not saying it will be easy. I’m saying that if we really want EVs to succeed we can do it.