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Violating sanctions isn't exactly the same thing as smuggling. It also doesn't seem like it should be a crime to disagree with your state on who deserves what s

Violating sanctions isn't exactly the same thing as smuggling. It also doesn't seem like it should be a crime to disagree with your state on who deserves what service... i never voted for the dingbats who control who is called a terrorist, let alone the people scared of china.

palmotea 8mo ago
> It also doesn't seem like it should be a crime to disagree with your state on who deserves what service... Seems like that's a pretty obvious and straightforward power for a state to have. The state has to make foreign and domestic policy decisions, and to be effective that would have to include trade restrictions. Otherwise you could have situations like businessmen profiting by selling weapons to the enemy to kill his own countrymen--and there are sociopaths who'd do that. > i never voted for the dingbats who control who is called a terrorist, let alone the people scared of china. So what?
- throwaway27448 8mo ago
  > Otherwise you could have situations like businessmen profiting by selling weapons to the enemy to kill his own countrymen We do this already, though—we sell weapons to israel to kill americans living in palestine—Israel has certainly killed many more americans than Iran ever has. And yet, the sanctions are applied as if the situations were the opposite. Make it make sense! This entire line of thinking just seems like delusion to comfort yourself for having to live under a shitty state.
kube-system 8mo ago
> Violating sanctions isn't exactly the same thing as smuggling. The actions described in the article is both smuggling and a violation of sanctions.
gosub100 8mo ago
I agree. this is about US corporations using the government to protect their business moat. But 300M citizens can't use the government to ensure we have access to a doctor. It's sickening. China would be such a great competitor at what, making deep fakes or stealing from artists/musicians? It's stupid-on-top-of-stupid.

palmotea 8mo ago

> It also doesn't seem like it should be a crime to disagree with your state on who deserves what service... Seems like that's a pretty obvious and straightforward power for a state to have. The state has to make foreign and domestic policy decisions, and to be effective that would have to include trade restrictions. Otherwise you could have situations like businessmen profiting by selling weapons to the enemy to kill his own countrymen--and there are sociopaths who'd do that. > i never voted for the dingbats who control who is called a terrorist, let alone the people scared of china. So what?

throwaway27448 8mo ago
> Otherwise you could have situations like businessmen profiting by selling weapons to the enemy to kill his own countrymen We do this already, though—we sell weapons to israel to kill americans living in palestine—Israel has certainly killed many more americans than Iran ever has. And yet, the sanctions are applied as if the situations were the opposite. Make it make sense! This entire line of thinking just seems like delusion to comfort yourself for having to live under a shitty state.

kube-system 8mo ago

> Violating sanctions isn't exactly the same thing as smuggling. The actions described in the article is both smuggling and a violation of sanctions.

gosub100 8mo ago

I agree. this is about US corporations using the government to protect their business moat. But 300M citizens can't use the government to ensure we have access to a doctor. It's sickening. China would be such a great competitor at what, making deep fakes or stealing from artists/musicians? It's stupid-on-top-of-stupid.