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> You say "openly MAGA" as if it were a crime or something to be ashamed of Can you explain why it's not something to be ashamed of?

chungy 8mo ago
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- luddit3 8mo ago
  My country is not a cult of personality.
- cthalupa 8mo ago
  Being maga is diametrically opposed to supporting your country, as we've seen in particular this time around, but was also clearly visible in 2016-2020. Rampant abuse of the legal system to target individuals, despite claiming (without evidence) that that was that the Democrats did against them Total disregard for the constitution Threats towards the judiciary A million other things that I can list - but I'm sure you've heard them all and just don't care, so there's probably not much use in me continuing.
- nullstyle 8mo ago
  That's some grade AAA ignorance hard at work. Or did you mean supporting Israel?
- gpvos 8mo ago
  Indeed. And supporting MAGA is supporting the destruction of your country.
- _wire_ 8mo ago
  To believe in "Make America Great Again" you have to believe that America is not great, and this implies you are ashamed of your country. Shame is built in to MAGA.
- kgwxd 8mo ago
  MAGA is not "the country". It's a collection of disgusting people that will take everything for themselves, even from others "in the group".
- raw_anon_1111 8mo ago
  The entire point of MAGA is that they see “their country” as one where uppity negroes like Obama should have known his place, it’s DEI whenever a minority has a position of influence and power yet they keep lowering the standards for both ICE and the DOJ and RFK JR with no medical knowledge is the head of HHS. America won’t be “great” until minorities, non Christians and non straight people know their role.
throwaway290 8mo ago
I'm not american but I see technically nothing wrong with MAGA for me. it doesn't mean you must be transphobe or homophobe etc. but what people do under MAGA is another thing. sometimes it feels like for them it means "run america into the ground" or "get rid of all the best about america". GRABA if you like
- raw_anon_1111 8mo ago
  You mean things done under MAGA led by a president who said on national TV that Haitians are eating pets and led the “birther” conspiracy ?
  - throwaway290 8mo ago
    Yep exactly what I mean
boca_honey 8mo ago
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- frogperson 8mo ago
  You have a very narrow and rose colored view of what maga is. To us living in the US, maga stands for pedophilia, misogyny, racism, fascism, homophobia, transphobia, corroption and much more. It absolutely has nothing to do with putting america first, it has everything to do with putting trump first. Im afraid you have made the mistake of listening to a politicians words instead of watching his actions. Every word from his mouth is a lie.
  - vdqtp3 8mo ago
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    - SetTheorist 8mo ago
      That's absolutely what it stands for. To see this you need only listen to what they say and observe what they do.
  - boca_honey 8mo ago
    I know he's a liar. He is probably mentally ill and definitely not very bright. But I was not talking about Donald Trump. I was talking about the principle of wanting to make one's country "great." > To us living in the US maga stands for... This is not true. The GOP won the popular vote, centrists see some advantages in MAGA, and even some Democrats are against MAGA without going to the extreme of painting them all as pedophiles and corrupt. You are in the minority with that opinion.
- Dibes 8mo ago
  Those points are fine, but not the root of what makes MAGA shameful. You can go about having that opinion and take actions towards it without being racist, anti-LGBT, generally hateful, and backing an administration that has been proven time and time again to be deceitful in every facet and tuned to the interest of the wealthiest.

chungy 8mo ago

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luddit3 8mo ago
My country is not a cult of personality.
cthalupa 8mo ago
Being maga is diametrically opposed to supporting your country, as we've seen in particular this time around, but was also clearly visible in 2016-2020. Rampant abuse of the legal system to target individuals, despite claiming (without evidence) that that was that the Democrats did against them Total disregard for the constitution Threats towards the judiciary A million other things that I can list - but I'm sure you've heard them all and just don't care, so there's probably not much use in me continuing.
nullstyle 8mo ago
That's some grade AAA ignorance hard at work. Or did you mean supporting Israel?
gpvos 8mo ago
Indeed. And supporting MAGA is supporting the destruction of your country.
_wire_ 8mo ago
To believe in "Make America Great Again" you have to believe that America is not great, and this implies you are ashamed of your country. Shame is built in to MAGA.
kgwxd 8mo ago
MAGA is not "the country". It's a collection of disgusting people that will take everything for themselves, even from others "in the group".
raw_anon_1111 8mo ago
The entire point of MAGA is that they see “their country” as one where uppity negroes like Obama should have known his place, it’s DEI whenever a minority has a position of influence and power yet they keep lowering the standards for both ICE and the DOJ and RFK JR with no medical knowledge is the head of HHS. America won’t be “great” until minorities, non Christians and non straight people know their role.

throwaway290 8mo ago

I'm not american but I see technically nothing wrong with MAGA for me. it doesn't mean you must be transphobe or homophobe etc. but what people do under MAGA is another thing. sometimes it feels like for them it means "run america into the ground" or "get rid of all the best about america". GRABA if you like

raw_anon_1111 8mo ago
You mean things done under MAGA led by a president who said on national TV that Haitians are eating pets and led the “birther” conspiracy ?
- throwaway290 8mo ago
  Yep exactly what I mean

boca_honey 8mo ago

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frogperson 8mo ago
You have a very narrow and rose colored view of what maga is. To us living in the US, maga stands for pedophilia, misogyny, racism, fascism, homophobia, transphobia, corroption and much more. It absolutely has nothing to do with putting america first, it has everything to do with putting trump first. Im afraid you have made the mistake of listening to a politicians words instead of watching his actions. Every word from his mouth is a lie.
- vdqtp3 8mo ago
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  - SetTheorist 8mo ago
    That's absolutely what it stands for. To see this you need only listen to what they say and observe what they do.
- boca_honey 8mo ago
  I know he's a liar. He is probably mentally ill and definitely not very bright. But I was not talking about Donald Trump. I was talking about the principle of wanting to make one's country "great." > To us living in the US maga stands for... This is not true. The GOP won the popular vote, centrists see some advantages in MAGA, and even some Democrats are against MAGA without going to the extreme of painting them all as pedophiles and corrupt. You are in the minority with that opinion.
Dibes 8mo ago
Those points are fine, but not the root of what makes MAGA shameful. You can go about having that opinion and take actions towards it without being racist, anti-LGBT, generally hateful, and backing an administration that has been proven time and time again to be deceitful in every facet and tuned to the interest of the wealthiest.