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I’ve been using Telegram for about 10 years, and it’s one of the few products that has consistently felt great the entire time. It’s fast everywhere: backend, m

I’ve been using Telegram for about 10 years, and it’s one of the few products that has consistently felt great the entire time. It’s fast everywhere: backend, mobile app, desktop app, all of it. Everything just works. Its sync is out of this world—fluid, fast, and seamless across devices. You can use it on your phone, then move to your PC or laptop and continue instantly without friction. Unlimited message history and file storage are fantastic, and the bot platform is absurdly powerful. It’s boring in the best way, which is exactly what you want from a channel for interacting with your agents everywhere.

hallway_monitor 7mo ago
Since we are apparently giving messaging platform reviews here, I feel exactly the same way about Microsoft Teams. It works great. It does everything I want. It doesn’t get in my way. 10 out of 10 keep up the great work guys!
- ozozozd 7mo ago
  Username checks out?
- dijit 7mo ago
  I don’t believe you. I would never accuse Teams of being fast. Doesn’t seem to matter if I have an i9, a macbook m4 or a threadripper.
  - badc0ffee 7mo ago
    I only use Teams for meetings and the calendar, and the occasional chat during a meeting. I find it totally fine and I don't really think about it much one way or the other. For reference I have a 2021 M1 Max with 64 GB.
    - deleted 7mo ago
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    - roywashere 7mo ago
      Probably all managers and engineers working on Teams have similar copious amounts of memory and powerful CPUs on their devices and hardly use their own product. That would explain a lot
      - badc0ffee 7mo ago
        It honestly wasn't much different on my 2018 i5 Mini with 32 GB. Maybe what sucks here is the experience of running it on Windows. Or maybe it sucks for large meetings? But I never have Teams meetings with > 40 people at this company.
  - gostsamo 7mo ago
    satire is dead for when it comes home we look her in the face and cannot recognize her.
- DetroitThrow 7mo ago
  >It works great. When it is online, I agree with things asides from the "fast" part, actually. But many companies have a secondary service for async comms/chat when being Teams cannot be online, and compared to Slack.
- xeyownt 7mo ago
  Then you must not be using it. Teams network connectivity is a plain joke. If you use suspend, or frequently change network, the thing will just never reconnect, even though you have VPN alive and all network applications perfectly running. And the thing is just absurbdly sluggish, only display blurred grey lines instead of text in a meager attempt to look snappy.
- tim-projects 7mo ago
  I had a teams meeting yesterday and the entire UI disappeared so I couldn't unmute the mic. Shortcut didn't work either. Months back I was in a meeting and the dial tone just started sounding like someone was calling me. I face bugs like this often. It's a pos.
- theshrike79 7mo ago
  Now try to be connected to 3 different Teams instances at the same time.
- dd_xplore 7mo ago
  I thought this was sarcastic
  - ikt 7mo ago
    I was like are we using the same teams app?
- gf000 7mo ago
  Honestly can't tell if this is not sarcasm/rage bait. Teams that has 3 different UI frameworks on every platform (but your best bet is the web)? With the Microsoft login that tends to loop forever redirecting to God knows where? It's incomparable to telegram.
- miroljub 7mo ago
  > Since we are apparently giving messaging platform reviews here, I feel exactly the same way about Microsoft Teams. It works great. It does everything I want. It doesn’t get in my way. 10 out of 10 keep up the great work guys! It looks like we found a high executive using company money to buy a product no one wants to use. It's easy to promote Teams if your secretary is handling it for you and you don't need to suffer yourself. The other possibility: Microsoft started an astroturfing campaign on HN.
- tclancy 7mo ago
  > It does everything I want. Does it not start on your chosen platform or just not exist?
mhitza 7mo ago
Everything except privacy of communication. No?
- MidnightRider39 7mo ago
  In what way is privacy in Telegram worse than in Teams or Slack?
  - mhitza 7mo ago
    I don't know and I don't care. The comment I replied to said all these great things about Telegram, as if it where a marketing copy, but none of the downsides.
    - yunwal 7mo ago
      Ok, well in case anyone else does care, telegram offers e2e encrypted messages, slack and teams do not https://tsf.telegram.org/manuals/e2ee-simple https://tsf.telegram.org/manuals/e2ee-simple
      - mhitza 7mo ago
        Instead of Telegram, go self-hosted for company related communication activity. See Gamers Nexus recent video on self-hosted discord alternatives https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpjcmXbmMVM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpjcmXbmMVM For encrypted group conversation over third-party networks use Signal, or Matrix which try to keep your conversations private. The fact that Telegram has their support playbooks online, is interesting. Though I would call the following claim a stretch > As a result, we have disclosed 0 bytes of user data to third parties, including governments, to this day. Telegram gave more user data to French authorities after founder's arrest https://www.lemonde.fr/en/pixels/article/2025/01/08/telegram-gave-more-user-data-to-french-authorities-after-founder-s-arrest_6736824_13.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/pixels/article/2025/01/08/telegram...
ciex 7mo ago
Telegram had always impressed me for the same reasons. They have constantly gotten worse since about 2022/2023 though. Dark patterns, pay gate, they lost chat history for some of my closest contacts including 15k+ lost photos, no support at all. Something changed in their product direction and I started moving all my chats to Signal.
sunaookami 7mo ago
They need to stop cramming in useless features like Stories and NFT's and they recently redesigned the Android app to be like iOS but it broke my muscle memory, moved ALL items around (like "Saved" being in 1st spot when sharing, after the update it was buried, then it was at the top again and now it's under "Create a Story") and trashed the performance with the chat list not even loading at start (switching the tabs at the bottom "fixes" this, speaking of tabs, who even needs these there? The hamburger menu was fine). At least the desktop program is good AND native and not web slop. EDIT: and the Bot API is a killer feature

hallway_monitor 7mo ago

Since we are apparently giving messaging platform reviews here, I feel exactly the same way about Microsoft Teams. It works great. It does everything I want. It doesn’t get in my way. 10 out of 10 keep up the great work guys!

ozozozd 7mo ago
Username checks out?
dijit 7mo ago
I don’t believe you. I would never accuse Teams of being fast. Doesn’t seem to matter if I have an i9, a macbook m4 or a threadripper.
- badc0ffee 7mo ago
  I only use Teams for meetings and the calendar, and the occasional chat during a meeting. I find it totally fine and I don't really think about it much one way or the other. For reference I have a 2021 M1 Max with 64 GB.
  - deleted 7mo ago
    [deleted]
  - roywashere 7mo ago
    Probably all managers and engineers working on Teams have similar copious amounts of memory and powerful CPUs on their devices and hardly use their own product. That would explain a lot
    - badc0ffee 7mo ago
      It honestly wasn't much different on my 2018 i5 Mini with 32 GB. Maybe what sucks here is the experience of running it on Windows. Or maybe it sucks for large meetings? But I never have Teams meetings with > 40 people at this company.
- gostsamo 7mo ago
  satire is dead for when it comes home we look her in the face and cannot recognize her.
DetroitThrow 7mo ago
>It works great. When it is online, I agree with things asides from the "fast" part, actually. But many companies have a secondary service for async comms/chat when being Teams cannot be online, and compared to Slack.
xeyownt 7mo ago
Then you must not be using it. Teams network connectivity is a plain joke. If you use suspend, or frequently change network, the thing will just never reconnect, even though you have VPN alive and all network applications perfectly running. And the thing is just absurbdly sluggish, only display blurred grey lines instead of text in a meager attempt to look snappy.
tim-projects 7mo ago
I had a teams meeting yesterday and the entire UI disappeared so I couldn't unmute the mic. Shortcut didn't work either. Months back I was in a meeting and the dial tone just started sounding like someone was calling me. I face bugs like this often. It's a pos.
theshrike79 7mo ago
Now try to be connected to 3 different Teams instances at the same time.
dd_xplore 7mo ago
I thought this was sarcastic
- ikt 7mo ago
  I was like are we using the same teams app?
gf000 7mo ago
Honestly can't tell if this is not sarcasm/rage bait. Teams that has 3 different UI frameworks on every platform (but your best bet is the web)? With the Microsoft login that tends to loop forever redirecting to God knows where? It's incomparable to telegram.
miroljub 7mo ago
> Since we are apparently giving messaging platform reviews here, I feel exactly the same way about Microsoft Teams. It works great. It does everything I want. It doesn’t get in my way. 10 out of 10 keep up the great work guys! It looks like we found a high executive using company money to buy a product no one wants to use. It's easy to promote Teams if your secretary is handling it for you and you don't need to suffer yourself. The other possibility: Microsoft started an astroturfing campaign on HN.
tclancy 7mo ago
> It does everything I want. Does it not start on your chosen platform or just not exist?

mhitza 7mo ago

Everything except privacy of communication. No?

MidnightRider39 7mo ago
In what way is privacy in Telegram worse than in Teams or Slack?
- mhitza 7mo ago
  I don't know and I don't care. The comment I replied to said all these great things about Telegram, as if it where a marketing copy, but none of the downsides.
  - yunwal 7mo ago
    Ok, well in case anyone else does care, telegram offers e2e encrypted messages, slack and teams do not https://tsf.telegram.org/manuals/e2ee-simple https://tsf.telegram.org/manuals/e2ee-simple
    - mhitza 7mo ago
      Instead of Telegram, go self-hosted for company related communication activity. See Gamers Nexus recent video on self-hosted discord alternatives https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpjcmXbmMVM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpjcmXbmMVM For encrypted group conversation over third-party networks use Signal, or Matrix which try to keep your conversations private. The fact that Telegram has their support playbooks online, is interesting. Though I would call the following claim a stretch > As a result, we have disclosed 0 bytes of user data to third parties, including governments, to this day. Telegram gave more user data to French authorities after founder's arrest https://www.lemonde.fr/en/pixels/article/2025/01/08/telegram-gave-more-user-data-to-french-authorities-after-founder-s-arrest_6736824_13.html https://www.lemonde.fr/en/pixels/article/2025/01/08/telegram...

ciex 7mo ago

Telegram had always impressed me for the same reasons. They have constantly gotten worse since about 2022/2023 though. Dark patterns, pay gate, they lost chat history for some of my closest contacts including 15k+ lost photos, no support at all. Something changed in their product direction and I started moving all my chats to Signal.

sunaookami 7mo ago

They need to stop cramming in useless features like Stories and NFT's and they recently redesigned the Android app to be like iOS but it broke my muscle memory, moved ALL items around (like "Saved" being in 1st spot when sharing, after the update it was buried, then it was at the top again and now it's under "Create a Story") and trashed the performance with the chat list not even loading at start (switching the tabs at the bottom "fixes" this, speaking of tabs, who even needs these there? The hamburger menu was fine). At least the desktop program is good AND native and not web slop. EDIT: and the Bot API is a killer feature