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Xiaomi launches next-gen SU7 with 902 km range and Lidar, still undercuts Tesla
- MrVitaliy 7mo agoInteresting that they prominently feature Lidar as an upgrade over whatever Tesla has. Sheds some light on the whole drama with lidar vs camera in self-driving.
- winrid 7mo agothe sensors on my robot vacuum are an upgrade over whatever Tesla has
- mikelitoris 7mo agoWhen you give a snake oil salesman the reign over technical decisions…
- wolvoleo 7mo agoThose are generally lidar so that fits in with the above :) Just 2D and much lower resolution and speed obviously
- Havoc 7mo agoTesla unnecessarily backed themselves into a corner there with Musks ego and publicly announcing no lidar stance imo
- iknowstuff 7mo agoAnd yet FSD is the best adas so
- dyauspitr 7mo agoThat’s wild with that range (560 miles) it probably gets atleast 300 miles in the worst case scenario. That’s game over for ICE. What a dream. I wish we could have them in the US but my patriotism also tells me that would be the death of almost all US auto companies.
- hangonhn 7mo agoI would be OK if we tariff or effectively ban Chinese EVs (as is the case now) for a little while to give our auto industry time to retool and catch up. The current situation with a ban but no long term EV adoption plan in place is just incredibly short sighted. We could end up like certain developing nations that has an indigenous auto industry that are nothing more than glorified assembler of foreign cars or the American consumer continues to buy cars that are more expensive and less performant to use and operate while making all of us vulnerable to oil price shocks.
- torginus 7mo agoI wouldn't encourage that and I don't think it will be necessary. In Europe, most Chinese brands aren't selling exactly well, while domestic manufacturers really sped up their timelines and pushed for competitive pricing, so generally I don't think there's much of a demand for Chinese EVs, except for the genuinely nice brands, like XPeng and Nio. There's also the issue, it that in most places in Europe outside of Scandinavia, the charger infrastructure is lacking, and regular people are quite rightly averse of getting an EV if you step out of the tech bubble. I have a friend who's a high-level manager in automotive retail, and he said he thinks Chinese EVs will be like Chinese smartphones - yes they are nice, and cheaper, but still the market looks like 70% of it is controlled by Apple/Samsung, and the rest of the manufacturers fight over what's left
- tzs 7mo agoI don't know about EVs specifically, but there seems to be demand in Europe for Chinese PHEVs: "Chinese automakers nearly double Europe market share to 8% in February as PHEVs drive growth" [1]. [1] https://www.autonews.com/retail/sales/ane-europe-chinese-february-2026-2-months-0318/ https://www.autonews.com/retail/sales/ane-europe-chinese-feb...
- anonzzzies 7mo agoHere in spain i suddenly see a lot of them (chinese brands) and not in a bader meinhof way. They are advertising more and i see a lot more on the streets. I was picked up from the station by a BYD. Not sure about the numbers, but something is definitely happening.
- knownastron 7mo ago[flagged]
- bryanlarsen 7mo agoCurrent Chinese EV subsidies are on the order of 10%.
- hangonhn 7mo agoAnd Tesla also receives subsidies from China because of their Shanghai gigafactory.
- maxglute 7mo agoPRC EVs are less subsidized per vehicle than US. The context is PRC subsidies structurally drive down manufacturing costs vs US subsidies remains largely sunk cost pork barrel job programs. An unsubsidized PRC car is still going to be significantly cheaper than a subsidized US car in same tier.
- mohsen1 7mo agoFor the Chinese customer it is not a headline, it is an actual price tag
- epolanski 7mo agoWhy do I care for the context? Chinese taxpayer subsidize a sector they find important, so what? Good for us consumers, especially the non Chinese ones that don't even get to see the bill in their taxes. US automakers too have received plenty of subsidies, bailouts, tax credits, manufacturing credits, etc, etc.
- aurareturn 7mo agoYou shouldn't care. Just like how a VC is willing to sponsor a startup to sell their products at a loss, you should be milking that as much as possible as a logical consumer.
- manoDev 7mo ago
- Aurornis 7mo agoThe range is Chinese CLTC range, which is a more generous rating than the US range ratings. It's an impressive range number, but don't try to compare it directly to range numbers for other EVs. The current gen SU7 is available with an 830km CLTC range. If you drive one on real roads, you will not get 830km of range. :)
- woleium 7mo agowhat will you get?
- Aurornis 7mo agoSome of the reviews have been able to get as much as 80% of the rated range under ideal conditions. The CLTC doesn't measure actual highway usage well at all. If you drive a lot on highways and use the air conditioning you could be closer to 60% of rated range.
- CrimsonRain 7mo ago~30% less. So about 600km. Still a very good number.
- bryanlarsen 7mo agoArticle says that'll be about 400 miles in the real world.
- DetroitThrow 7mo ago300-400 miles depending on conditions
- gambiting 7mo agoThat's still phenomenal imho.
- Bimos 7mo agoMy car is 605km in CLTC and 492km in WLTP. And it runs for about 450km before battery totally die, so I have to charge for every about 400~420km. A bit cold and totally no hill here in Shanghai. So for 900km CLTC, I think it will go like at least 600~650km easily.
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- coronasaurus 7mo agoHope you look up what Ford's Ceo had to say about Xiaomi cars. I have a feeling that you won't like it.
- gamblor956 7mo agoChina can and will execute executives of companies if their products are shown to be dangerous and embarrass the state. So on the one hand while a certain level of disregard for safety is built into Chinese production, there are lines even Chinese manufacturers won't cross.
- yanhangyhy 7mo agoRecently, because of BYD’s fast-charging technology, I started paying attention to charging speed. Charging to 80% is actually not very difficult, so manufacturers usually like to highlight that number since it’s easier to make it fast. The difficult part is after 80%. Normally, a different charging mode is needed, and the speed has to be reduced. So charging from 80% to nearly 100% usually takes almost as long as charging from low battery to 80%. Only BYD’s selling point is that it can charge up to 97% much faster than other manufacturers. (xiaomi cars are not bad but they are also famous for marketing skills)
- illwrks 7mo agoIs that 97% really just the 80% of the full battery capacity?
- breakpointalpha 7mo agoInsta-banned in the US for "national security", not because it's a better car than anything the US can produce. /s
- neogodless 7mo agoWas anyone able to discern from this (or official sources) what the actual battery capacity, and estimated efficiency / consumption is under ideal conditions? (e.g. 100 kWh, 400 miles -> 10 kWh / 100 miles or 4 miles / kWh)