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Under what law can Anthropic force OpenCode to do this? Surely it's not illegal to publish code that interacts with an API that's open for everyone to see?
by cedws 7mo ago
Under what law can Anthropic force OpenCode to do this? Surely it's not illegal to publish code that interacts with an API that's open for everyone to see?
- bdangubic 7mo agoTerms or Service
- strideashort 7mo agoDo you need to accept ToS to vibe code anthropic plugin? Code is one thing. Using API key is entirely different thing.
- bdangubic 7mo agousing API key also has Terms of Service :)
- strideashort 7mo agoYes, which is user’s responsibility!
- Ekaros 7mo agoCleary they need to get AI which has not accepted those to rewrite it. That is the easy and fast solution these days. Or at most find a person who has not accepted tos do that.
- doc_ick 7mo agoJust re-train your own model on your own collected data. No problem there.
- anonym29 7mo agoThe API has a very clear ToS prohibiting third-party client usage with the heavily subsidized Claude.ai subscription plans. Anthropic's right to reject or block that traffic, as well as to ban users who attempt this, is well-protected by the ToS those users neglected to read. Regarding the legal demands here, anyone can issue anyone else a cease and desist order at any time, for anything, in the USA. The demands do not need to have merit. "Illegal" generally refers to criminal law, not civil suits, this was essentially Anthropic threatening to file a lawsuit. Opencode was under no legal obligation to comply and was not breaking any laws, they simply decided it was easier and cheaper to comply than to fight.
- cedws 7mo agoI thought TOS grants Anthropic the right to stop providing the service to a user, not go after them legally.
- snoman 7mo agoMy understanding is that, if you directly assist someone violate a ToS, you can be held liable. Bad analogy but the getaway driver doesn’t need to enter the bank to be guilty in the robbery.
- nananana9 7mo agoSurely there's no way that's true. The logical conclusion of that would be that every random ToS is a law that everyone must abide by, regardless of whether or not they've agreed to it.
- ethanrutherford 7mo agoBy definition, it is exactly a law. It's known as business law. The ToS is a business contract which you must agree to if you wish to use the service. Violating terms of service is literally a breach of contract.
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- bakugo 7mo agoThey don't need any actual written law behind their actions, all they need is money. What are you gonna do, fight them in court? Good luck with that, especially against a company directly associated with the US government and Palantir.
- strideashort 7mo agowell i guess the next github will be based out of China on Alibaba cloud
- nijave 7mo agoPresumably there's binding legal terms in the license agreement that users agree to in order to access the API.