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Reproducing someone’s intellectual property and publishing it is exactly what constitutes a copyright violation. You can retype someone’s book with your keyboa

Reproducing someone’s intellectual property and publishing it is exactly what constitutes a copyright violation. You can retype someone’s book with your keyboard, it’s still not yours.

Sharlin 7mo ago
Reproducing the surface behavior of a program, no matter how faithfully, is not in itself copyright violation if it's a cleanroom implementation. But int this case it's not to write the new one, the developers studied (and manually translated to C++) the original code, not just the program's behavior. So this is more of a case of a derived work, like a translation of a novel.
orphea 7mo ago
Reproducing is absolutely not a copyright violation. Otherwise emulators would have no legal option to exist.
- designerarvid 7mo ago
  That is a question about which copyrights are enforced. Different question.
- ErroneousBosh 7mo ago
  An emulator is not a reproduction of the thing it emulates.
anthk 7mo ago
Learn something new, dear GenZers: https://osgameclones.com/ https://osgameclones.com/ Maybe you all realize how much brainwashed from corporations yall actually are.
- iso1631 7mo ago
  Look and Feel in computers and how it interacts with copyright is hardly something new https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/assets/articlePDFs/v03/03HarvJLTech195.pdf https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/assets/articlePDFs/v03/03HarvJL...
  - anthk 7mo ago
    And Sony vs Bleem (or the IBM BIOS reimplementation) already set a precedent so that doesn't really matter anymore. Look at Wine. Or Exegutor. Or DOSBox. All of them totally legal reimplementing either prior look and feel and functionality.
    - iso1631 7mo ago
      > The code of computer programs are excluded from design protection, but visual aspects of software are very commonly protectable as long as they are ‘new’ (i.e. not a direct copy of anything that has come before) and possess ‘individual character’ (i.e. that the design produces a different ‘overall impression’ than anything that has come before) I'm no expect, but Chris Sawyer style games certainly provided a unique overall impression to me. Whether it needs to be a registered design or not I couldn't say, but it's not going to be cheap to find out. More recent battles have relied on Trademark and Patent law rather than Copyright, but "Look and Feel" is still a legal grey area
      - anthk 7mo ago
        Wine literally copies both the Win32 UI -needed to respect that for interop- , some of the kernel functions and Win32 which is just an API implementation and not copyrighteable per se. If not, we woudn't have GNU. Or Microsoft services for Unix.
- designerarvid 7mo ago
  GenZ?

Reproducing someone’s intellectual property and publishing it is exactly what constitutes a copyright violation. You can retype someone’s book with your keyboard, it’s still not yours.

Sharlin 7mo ago

Reproducing the surface behavior of a program, no matter how faithfully, is not in itself copyright violation if it's a cleanroom implementation. But int this case it's not to write the new one, the developers studied (and manually translated to C++) the original code, not just the program's behavior. So this is more of a case of a derived work, like a translation of a novel.

orphea 7mo ago

Reproducing is absolutely not a copyright violation. Otherwise emulators would have no legal option to exist.

designerarvid 7mo ago
That is a question about which copyrights are enforced. Different question.
ErroneousBosh 7mo ago
An emulator is not a reproduction of the thing it emulates.

anthk 7mo ago

Learn something new, dear GenZers: https://osgameclones.com/ https://osgameclones.com/ Maybe you all realize how much brainwashed from corporations yall actually are.

iso1631 7mo ago
Look and Feel in computers and how it interacts with copyright is hardly something new https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/assets/articlePDFs/v03/03HarvJLTech195.pdf https://jolt.law.harvard.edu/assets/articlePDFs/v03/03HarvJL...
- anthk 7mo ago
  And Sony vs Bleem (or the IBM BIOS reimplementation) already set a precedent so that doesn't really matter anymore. Look at Wine. Or Exegutor. Or DOSBox. All of them totally legal reimplementing either prior look and feel and functionality.
  - iso1631 7mo ago
    > The code of computer programs are excluded from design protection, but visual aspects of software are very commonly protectable as long as they are ‘new’ (i.e. not a direct copy of anything that has come before) and possess ‘individual character’ (i.e. that the design produces a different ‘overall impression’ than anything that has come before) I'm no expect, but Chris Sawyer style games certainly provided a unique overall impression to me. Whether it needs to be a registered design or not I couldn't say, but it's not going to be cheap to find out. More recent battles have relied on Trademark and Patent law rather than Copyright, but "Look and Feel" is still a legal grey area
    - anthk 7mo ago
      Wine literally copies both the Win32 UI -needed to respect that for interop- , some of the kernel functions and Win32 which is just an API implementation and not copyrighteable per se. If not, we woudn't have GNU. Or Microsoft services for Unix.
designerarvid 7mo ago
GenZ?