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I really don't understand the hate for Spotify. Been a paid member for a decade and Apple Music still sucks for me (particularly when internet is bad)

by halapro 7mo ago

vpribish 7mo ago
they funnelled money and attention to joe rogan. I hate them - not as much as i hate microsoft or oracle - maybe about as much as adobe. but i'm using them because i have not found an acceptable alternative ... yet.
- kyorochan 7mo ago
  There are lots of alternatives. What makes them all unacceptable?
  - vpribish 7mo ago
    spotify's recommendation systems really work for me to discover new music i will enjoy, not just more music like what I already listen to
petercooper 7mo ago
I don’t know how their behavior differs but I live in a country with patchy mobile coverage and Spotify and Apple Music are night and day with how they cope with this. Spotify is far more robust and I assume prefetches more aggressively.
mholm 7mo ago
Agree with this; I want to cancel my spotify subscription so badly. I already have Apple One, which includes Apple Music. But the recommendations and UX are so incredibly bad that I still pay for Spotify. I was doing my yearly attempt at switching over to Apple Music and the 'similar music' radio had somehow saw fit to include Kendrick Lamar with my indie synth. Swapped back to spotify and immediately loved some of its similar suggestions.
- pwython 7mo ago
  My biggest gripe with Apple Music is shuffling. When I shuffle my entire library of thousands of songs, I'm hearing the same ~50 songs over and over UNTIL I add a new song to my library. Then suddenly I'm hearing songs I haven't heard in years. How does one screw up randomization that bad, and how has it not been fixed over the past several years?
thenthenthen 7mo ago
They started with a pirated set of music (sounds familiar?), they invest in the military industrial complex.
some_random 7mo ago
Spotify sucks for artists because music isn't actually worth much and they don't like hearing that. A certain group of people, including some politicians, have concluded that it must mean that spotify is taking advantage of musicians despite spotify only reaching profitability in 2024.
- halapro 7mo ago
  Why take it on Spotify? YouTube Music pays even less and I've never heard anyone complain about that.
drcongo 7mo ago
Well, for one thing there's that whole pushing their own AI generated slop music into electronica playlists so that actual artists get fewer plays.
- halapro 7mo ago
  That I'm starting to feel the pain myself, but the Spotify hate is way older than this phenomenon.
  - drcongo 7mo ago
    Oh yeah, it's just the latest thing in a long line of nasty. I cancelled my Spotify way back when they decided to fund the rise of fascism by giving money to imbecilic ham hock Joe Rogan.

I really don't understand the hate for Spotify. Been a paid member for a decade and Apple Music still sucks for me (particularly when internet is bad)

by halapro 7mo ago

I really don't understand the hate for Spotify. Been a paid member for a decade and Apple Music still sucks for me (particularly when internet is bad)

vpribish 7mo ago

they funnelled money and attention to joe rogan. I hate them - not as much as i hate microsoft or oracle - maybe about as much as adobe. but i'm using them because i have not found an acceptable alternative ... yet.

kyorochan 7mo ago
There are lots of alternatives. What makes them all unacceptable?
- vpribish 7mo ago
  spotify's recommendation systems really work for me to discover new music i will enjoy, not just more music like what I already listen to

petercooper 7mo ago

I don’t know how their behavior differs but I live in a country with patchy mobile coverage and Spotify and Apple Music are night and day with how they cope with this. Spotify is far more robust and I assume prefetches more aggressively.

mholm 7mo ago

Agree with this; I want to cancel my spotify subscription so badly. I already have Apple One, which includes Apple Music. But the recommendations and UX are so incredibly bad that I still pay for Spotify. I was doing my yearly attempt at switching over to Apple Music and the 'similar music' radio had somehow saw fit to include Kendrick Lamar with my indie synth. Swapped back to spotify and immediately loved some of its similar suggestions.

pwython 7mo ago
My biggest gripe with Apple Music is shuffling. When I shuffle my entire library of thousands of songs, I'm hearing the same ~50 songs over and over UNTIL I add a new song to my library. Then suddenly I'm hearing songs I haven't heard in years. How does one screw up randomization that bad, and how has it not been fixed over the past several years?

thenthenthen 7mo ago

They started with a pirated set of music (sounds familiar?), they invest in the military industrial complex.

some_random 7mo ago

Spotify sucks for artists because music isn't actually worth much and they don't like hearing that. A certain group of people, including some politicians, have concluded that it must mean that spotify is taking advantage of musicians despite spotify only reaching profitability in 2024.

halapro 7mo ago
Why take it on Spotify? YouTube Music pays even less and I've never heard anyone complain about that.

drcongo 7mo ago

Well, for one thing there's that whole pushing their own AI generated slop music into electronica playlists so that actual artists get fewer plays.

halapro 7mo ago
That I'm starting to feel the pain myself, but the Spotify hate is way older than this phenomenon.
- drcongo 7mo ago
  Oh yeah, it's just the latest thing in a long line of nasty. I cancelled my Spotify way back when they decided to fund the rise of fascism by giving money to imbecilic ham hock Joe Rogan.