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I want to believe... but I also need proofs of that "trend", any reference I could read on please?

by utopiah 8mo ago

AdamN 8mo ago
It's definitely a topic of conversation in Reddit, etc... However I agree that the push to reduce US dependence by EU companies (and countries) is hampered by the fact that US stuff is already embedded (Microsoft but also Google, etc...) and that many of these companies are transnational anyway (very few European companies are solely inside the EU) and finally and most importantly just about every company will choose the option that does the job best for the right price (sovereignty is a distant second for most decision makers).
spiderfarmer 8mo ago
While few companies announce this publicly, I know from personal experience with corporate clients that many companies are preparing for Trump to use Big Tech as a bargaining chip. And they should. Because the US is not behaving rationally at all. https://nltimes.nl/2026/02/10/rabobank-ing-abn-amro-seek-european-alternatives-us-technology https://nltimes.nl/2026/02/10/rabobank-ing-abn-amro-seek-eur... https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/13/gartner_cio_cloud_sovereignty/ https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/13/gartner_cio_cloud_sov... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/europe-zoom-teams-france-us-b2913584.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/europe-zoom-... https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-france-is-ditching-american-tech-when-will-canada/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-... https://sherwood.news/tech/europe-wants-to-break-up-with-us-tech-heres-how-it-plans-on-doing-that/ https://sherwood.news/tech/europe-wants-to-break-up-with-us-...
- drstewart 8mo ago
  >While few companies announce this publicly, I know from personal experience with corporate clients Well I have even more personal experience that contradicts yours, and this isn't true at all. Everyone uses Claude / Gemini / OpenAI. Mistral isn't even on the table.
  - input_sh 8mo ago
    Come on, compared to Google Workspace / Microsoft's whatever-it's-called-these-days, the cost of switching from one LLM provider to another is pretty much zero. Having an option at the back of your mind is all it takes right now, until push comes to shove of course.
  - spiderfarmer 8mo ago
    Just a sample: https://mistral.ai/customers https://mistral.ai/customers And you can Google for "We use Mistral" to find thousands of usecases by startups and other companies.
hermanzegerman 8mo ago
Multiple Government organisations ditching Microsoft? Including entire German states? My University also migrated to OpenExchange
- utopiah 8mo ago
  That's the public sector. I can also give examples of schools in Denmark, cities in France, education system in France, cities in Spain too, but they said "big EU companies".

I want to believe... but I also need proofs of that "trend", any reference I could read on please?

by utopiah 8mo ago

I want to believe... but I also need proofs of that "trend", any reference I could read on please?

AdamN 8mo ago

It's definitely a topic of conversation in Reddit, etc... However I agree that the push to reduce US dependence by EU companies (and countries) is hampered by the fact that US stuff is already embedded (Microsoft but also Google, etc...) and that many of these companies are transnational anyway (very few European companies are solely inside the EU) and finally and most importantly just about every company will choose the option that does the job best for the right price (sovereignty is a distant second for most decision makers).

spiderfarmer 8mo ago

While few companies announce this publicly, I know from personal experience with corporate clients that many companies are preparing for Trump to use Big Tech as a bargaining chip. And they should. Because the US is not behaving rationally at all. https://nltimes.nl/2026/02/10/rabobank-ing-abn-amro-seek-european-alternatives-us-technology https://nltimes.nl/2026/02/10/rabobank-ing-abn-amro-seek-eur... https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/13/gartner_cio_cloud_sovereignty/ https://www.theregister.com/2025/11/13/gartner_cio_cloud_sov... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/europe-zoom-teams-france-us-b2913584.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/europe-zoom-... https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-france-is-ditching-american-tech-when-will-canada/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-... https://sherwood.news/tech/europe-wants-to-break-up-with-us-tech-heres-how-it-plans-on-doing-that/ https://sherwood.news/tech/europe-wants-to-break-up-with-us-...

drstewart 8mo ago
>While few companies announce this publicly, I know from personal experience with corporate clients Well I have even more personal experience that contradicts yours, and this isn't true at all. Everyone uses Claude / Gemini / OpenAI. Mistral isn't even on the table.
- input_sh 8mo ago
  Come on, compared to Google Workspace / Microsoft's whatever-it's-called-these-days, the cost of switching from one LLM provider to another is pretty much zero. Having an option at the back of your mind is all it takes right now, until push comes to shove of course.
- spiderfarmer 8mo ago
  Just a sample: https://mistral.ai/customers https://mistral.ai/customers And you can Google for "We use Mistral" to find thousands of usecases by startups and other companies.

hermanzegerman 8mo ago

Multiple Government organisations ditching Microsoft? Including entire German states? My University also migrated to OpenExchange

utopiah 8mo ago
That's the public sector. I can also give examples of schools in Denmark, cities in France, education system in France, cities in Spain too, but they said "big EU companies".