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So... a pinky swear then, right? I mean, how is the OS going to actually verify the age of the operator? I see how this helps Facebook - if you lie to the OS,

So... a pinky swear then, right? I mean, how is the OS going to actually verify the age of the operator? I see how this helps Facebook - if you lie to the OS, and the OS tells Facebook that you're over 18, then it's not Facebook's fault if they provide you an 18+ service. I don't see how this helps anyone else.

Dylan16807 7mo ago
It's set by the administrator of the computer, so a parent can set it for their child instead of hoping their child is honest to every single individual site. That's the difference between a parental control and a pinky swear.
- nickitolas 7mo ago
  I have no experience with minors using Linux. Do they not typically have sudo access?
- cesarb 7mo ago
  > It's set by the administrator of the computer, so a parent can set it for their child instead of hoping their child is honest to every single individual site. You are assuming the parent is the administrator of the computer.
  - Dylan16807 7mo ago
    I am not assuming that. That's why it's a "can". Parental controls are always "can".
- marcus_holmes 7mo ago
  The thing we want (well, that other people want, I have other views) is that large tech companies are not able to brainwash kids. The thing this creates is liability on parents, or schools, or anyone who provides computer access to children. And access to PII for bad guys (who can ask your computer for your date of birth in this proposal, right?)
  - Dylan16807 7mo ago
    > The thing we want (well, that other people want, I have other views) is that large tech companies are not able to brainwash kids. That has little connection with this law. And having no age settings at all is where you'll have the most brainwashing. > The thing this creates is liability on parents, or schools, or anyone who provides computer access to children. And access to PII for bad guys (who can ask your computer for your date of birth in this proposal, right?) They're already responsible for controlling that. I think they should have more tools to help. > And access to PII for bad guys (who can ask your computer for your date of birth in this proposal, right?) Did you look at the law(s)? They get one of four age ranges.
- mittensc 7mo ago
  so the kid boots linux off a usb stick and makes this pointless

Dylan16807 7mo ago

It's set by the administrator of the computer, so a parent can set it for their child instead of hoping their child is honest to every single individual site. That's the difference between a parental control and a pinky swear.

nickitolas 7mo ago
I have no experience with minors using Linux. Do they not typically have sudo access?
cesarb 7mo ago
> It's set by the administrator of the computer, so a parent can set it for their child instead of hoping their child is honest to every single individual site. You are assuming the parent is the administrator of the computer.
- Dylan16807 7mo ago
  I am not assuming that. That's why it's a "can". Parental controls are always "can".
marcus_holmes 7mo ago
The thing we want (well, that other people want, I have other views) is that large tech companies are not able to brainwash kids. The thing this creates is liability on parents, or schools, or anyone who provides computer access to children. And access to PII for bad guys (who can ask your computer for your date of birth in this proposal, right?)
- Dylan16807 7mo ago
  > The thing we want (well, that other people want, I have other views) is that large tech companies are not able to brainwash kids. That has little connection with this law. And having no age settings at all is where you'll have the most brainwashing. > The thing this creates is liability on parents, or schools, or anyone who provides computer access to children. And access to PII for bad guys (who can ask your computer for your date of birth in this proposal, right?) They're already responsible for controlling that. I think they should have more tools to help. > And access to PII for bad guys (who can ask your computer for your date of birth in this proposal, right?) Did you look at the law(s)? They get one of four age ranges.
mittensc 7mo ago
so the kid boots linux off a usb stick and makes this pointless