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The thing that people in the US forget about the UK (and indeed Europe in general) is that we're a lot further north than you think. The UK's most southerly ci

The thing that people in the US forget about the UK (and indeed Europe in general) is that we're a lot further north than you think. The UK's most southerly city, Truro, is still only at 50.26°N, but that's still further north than the border between the US and Canada.

cheschire 8mo ago
I’m not entirely sure how your response maps to my comment, but indeed the airstream impacts on weather cause a much warmer climate in much of Europe compared to North America. This can confuse many folks when guessing the latitude of locations in each region. I remember how shocked I was when I was younger to learn Paris is nearly the same latitude as Vancouver, especially considering the climate difference.
- ErroneousBosh 8mo ago
  It's more that there's comparatively little insolation here, unlike pretty much all of the US. If you go to one of the US cities that's incredibly far south like Seattle, you've got way more sunlight pretty much all year round. Even down here at 57°N I'd need a solar farm the size of a football pitch to run a few lights in winter, and it would have to have the panels practically vertical because for the six hours or so the Sun is up the highest it ever gets is 9° above the horizon. You're pretty okay for wind though, although if you're on the north-west coast it needs to be good for maybe 140-150mph sustained.
  - gnabgib 8mo ago
    Your AI is acting up - Seattle is not incredibly far south, nor has abundant sunlight.. few minutes more than London, but if we're including cloud-vs-sunshine, less hours. London would be "up" from Seattle (47.6->51.5) not "down here". The 140mph sustained wind in Seattle is regularly featured in tourist guides, though. Fair play
    - ErroneousBosh 8mo ago
      Seattle is further south than most of the EU, and being down about the 45° point gets far more insolation than anywhere even five degrees north. It's just basic trig. Consider that from where I'm sitting right now the border between Canada and Alaska is only like an hour's drive north for me, albeit 4500 miles west ;-)
gnabgib 8mo ago
I live in Canada (North of you) and get far more sunlight than you (~2350 hours/year vs London's 1640 or Edinburgh's 1430.. at 57.. are you just south of Inverness?)
- ErroneousBosh 8mo ago
  Much further east these days but yeah, a bawhair south of Inverness. It's still nearly a three hour drive though :-)
  - gnabgib 8mo ago
    Used to live there-ish (Aberdeen).. it's beautiful countryside (but.. the fog)
    - ErroneousBosh 8mo ago
      > (but.. the fog) Haar, it's called. Cracking beaches all down that coast though especially a little south. I go up to Aberdeen quite a bit, and as I'm coming over the brow of the hill on the AWPR as it passes Blackdog to the north and you get a view of the sea, I trip the dashcam to get a photo of my favourite wind turbines that really really really upset a certain elderly conservative guy.

cheschire 8mo ago

I’m not entirely sure how your response maps to my comment, but indeed the airstream impacts on weather cause a much warmer climate in much of Europe compared to North America. This can confuse many folks when guessing the latitude of locations in each region. I remember how shocked I was when I was younger to learn Paris is nearly the same latitude as Vancouver, especially considering the climate difference.

ErroneousBosh 8mo ago
It's more that there's comparatively little insolation here, unlike pretty much all of the US. If you go to one of the US cities that's incredibly far south like Seattle, you've got way more sunlight pretty much all year round. Even down here at 57°N I'd need a solar farm the size of a football pitch to run a few lights in winter, and it would have to have the panels practically vertical because for the six hours or so the Sun is up the highest it ever gets is 9° above the horizon. You're pretty okay for wind though, although if you're on the north-west coast it needs to be good for maybe 140-150mph sustained.
- gnabgib 8mo ago
  Your AI is acting up - Seattle is not incredibly far south, nor has abundant sunlight.. few minutes more than London, but if we're including cloud-vs-sunshine, less hours. London would be "up" from Seattle (47.6->51.5) not "down here". The 140mph sustained wind in Seattle is regularly featured in tourist guides, though. Fair play
  - ErroneousBosh 8mo ago
    Seattle is further south than most of the EU, and being down about the 45° point gets far more insolation than anywhere even five degrees north. It's just basic trig. Consider that from where I'm sitting right now the border between Canada and Alaska is only like an hour's drive north for me, albeit 4500 miles west ;-)

gnabgib 8mo ago

I live in Canada (North of you) and get far more sunlight than you (~2350 hours/year vs London's 1640 or Edinburgh's 1430.. at 57.. are you just south of Inverness?)

ErroneousBosh 8mo ago
Much further east these days but yeah, a bawhair south of Inverness. It's still nearly a three hour drive though :-)
- gnabgib 8mo ago
  Used to live there-ish (Aberdeen).. it's beautiful countryside (but.. the fog)
  - ErroneousBosh 8mo ago
    > (but.. the fog) Haar, it's called. Cracking beaches all down that coast though especially a little south. I go up to Aberdeen quite a bit, and as I'm coming over the brow of the hill on the AWPR as it passes Blackdog to the north and you get a view of the sea, I trip the dashcam to get a photo of my favourite wind turbines that really really really upset a certain elderly conservative guy.