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So this is like a claw type thing? I’ve never used these “agents”. Not sure what I would do with them. Probably not for coding right?

stavros 7mo ago
Yeah, it's more of a personal assistant. It can do coding, but it's most useful as a PA.
- indigodaddy 7mo ago
  So. Yesterday I had a need to, from my android phone, have ChatGPT et Al mobile app do something I THOUGHT was very simple. Read a publicly available Google spreadsheet (I gave it the /htmlview which in incognito I could see ALL the rows (maybe close to 1000 rows). None could do it. Not ChatGPT, not MS Copilot, not Claude app, not Gemini, not even GitHub copilot in a web tab. Some said I can’t even see that. Some could see it but couldn’t do anything with it. Some could see it but only the first 100 lines. All I wanted to do was have it ingest the entire thing and then spit me back out in a csv or txt any rows that mentioned 4K. Seemed simple but these things couldn’t even get past that first hurdle. Weirdly, I remembered I had the Grok app too and gave it a shot, and, it could do it. I guess it is more intelligent in it’s abilities to scrape/parse/whatever all kinds of different types of sites. I’d guess this is the type of thing that might actually excel in your agent or these claw clones, because they literally can just do whatever bash/tool type actions on whatever VM or sandboxed environment they live on?
  - stavros 7mo ago
    Yeah, I think this was an issue of Google blocking bot user agents more than the LLMs not being smart enough. A bot that can run curl (like mine) should read it no problem.
    - indigodaddy 7mo ago
      Ah ok that actually makes sense as the reason. And I think I’ve seen that with even coding agents when they are trying to look up stuff on the web or URLs you give them, now that I think about it..
- indigodaddy 7mo ago
  Can I ask what model you use with your stavrobot/agent? Could I wire an openrouter model into it?
  - stavros 7mo ago
    I use Opus, but yeah, you can use OpenRouter or local models too. Anything that Pi supports will work out of the box. Performance will vary, of course, but please let me know if you try it! GLM 5 or Qwen 3.5 might be good!
    - indigodaddy 7mo ago
      Ah ok, it wasn't clear in the readme to me. I saw everything Claude/Anthropic. Also I assume if we throw this on a VM to obviously do some basic VM /ssh hardening and it looks like it's just need to put the docker compose stuff behind caddy or whatever reverse proxy
      - stavros 7mo ago
        Hm yeah, I should mention that in the README, you're right. Yep, it only needs a reverse proxy and that's it.
amelius 7mo ago
You can do basically anything with a claw agent. For example, I asked one to build me a Dyson sphere. It is still working on it, but so far so good.
- indigodaddy 7mo ago
  Is this in jest? :)

stavros 7mo ago

Yeah, it's more of a personal assistant. It can do coding, but it's most useful as a PA.

indigodaddy 7mo ago
So. Yesterday I had a need to, from my android phone, have ChatGPT et Al mobile app do something I THOUGHT was very simple. Read a publicly available Google spreadsheet (I gave it the /htmlview which in incognito I could see ALL the rows (maybe close to 1000 rows). None could do it. Not ChatGPT, not MS Copilot, not Claude app, not Gemini, not even GitHub copilot in a web tab. Some said I can’t even see that. Some could see it but couldn’t do anything with it. Some could see it but only the first 100 lines. All I wanted to do was have it ingest the entire thing and then spit me back out in a csv or txt any rows that mentioned 4K. Seemed simple but these things couldn’t even get past that first hurdle. Weirdly, I remembered I had the Grok app too and gave it a shot, and, it could do it. I guess it is more intelligent in it’s abilities to scrape/parse/whatever all kinds of different types of sites. I’d guess this is the type of thing that might actually excel in your agent or these claw clones, because they literally can just do whatever bash/tool type actions on whatever VM or sandboxed environment they live on?
- stavros 7mo ago
  Yeah, I think this was an issue of Google blocking bot user agents more than the LLMs not being smart enough. A bot that can run curl (like mine) should read it no problem.
  - indigodaddy 7mo ago
    Ah ok that actually makes sense as the reason. And I think I’ve seen that with even coding agents when they are trying to look up stuff on the web or URLs you give them, now that I think about it..
indigodaddy 7mo ago
Can I ask what model you use with your stavrobot/agent? Could I wire an openrouter model into it?
- stavros 7mo ago
  I use Opus, but yeah, you can use OpenRouter or local models too. Anything that Pi supports will work out of the box. Performance will vary, of course, but please let me know if you try it! GLM 5 or Qwen 3.5 might be good!
  - indigodaddy 7mo ago
    Ah ok, it wasn't clear in the readme to me. I saw everything Claude/Anthropic. Also I assume if we throw this on a VM to obviously do some basic VM /ssh hardening and it looks like it's just need to put the docker compose stuff behind caddy or whatever reverse proxy
    - stavros 7mo ago
      Hm yeah, I should mention that in the README, you're right. Yep, it only needs a reverse proxy and that's it.

amelius 7mo ago

You can do basically anything with a claw agent. For example, I asked one to build me a Dyson sphere. It is still working on it, but so far so good.

indigodaddy 7mo ago
Is this in jest? :)