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It must be nice to live in a world where your country is always morally right just because it's your country. It's much simpler that way.
by stavros 8mo ago
It must be nice to live in a world where your country is always morally right just because it's your country. It's much simpler that way.
- givemeethekeys 8mo agoNationalism has its benefits.
- astrashe2 8mo agoIt doesn't change the reality of what's happening, so I don't think this is worth much, but most people here don't think that.
- stavros 8mo agoI know, I was talking about Karp.
- schrectacular 8mo agoSadly I would argue that most do, about most of the things, most of the time. See the Propaganda Model. Things like Iran are sadly the exception, as far as my experience goes.
- JumpinJack_Cash 8mo ago> > It doesn't change the reality of what's happening, so I don't think this is worth much, but most people here don't think that. Where are the ginormous protests that happened during the Iraq invasion? Me thinks it was not about right or wrong but fear of a new Vietnam type draft. Now that war has changed there are not similar type of protests because it's the missiles and drones doing the killing
- cameldrv 8mo agoThere were a lot of protests over the Iraq war when Congress was voting on it, but Congress hasn’t had a role this time. Who would the protesters be trying to influence?
- MattPalmer1086 8mo agoThe lead up to the Iraq was took a long time, with (to me and a while load of other people) clearly misleading and wrong evidence about WMDs as the justification. There was no attempt to sway public opinion as to the right or wrong on this one. They just piled in with no warning.
- scarecrowbob 8mo agoAs a person who organized and participated in the ultimately useless protests against the Iraq war, I think that you're correct- we had a couple of months to watch the BushII folks lie their way into getting wide support for the war. As far as I can tell, these current assholes don't really care what the folks in the US think about their actions, so they don't spend time making cases- they just go do whatever dumb shit they want to do. Hell, I suspect that even they don't have a firm idea of what they are doing.
- MattPalmer1086 8mo agoI don't think the protests were useless even if they didn't stop the war. It allowed the anti war opinion to solidify, particularly when there were no WMDs found (surprise). Tony Blair is now widely reviled in the UK, and you can hardly find anyone who will admit to have supported the war.
- rayiner 8mo agoThat’s not the operative principle in a democracy where people with many different moral ideologies must cooperate under the banner of a single government.
- lyu07282 8mo agomost people probably agree with that, but only until you mention a specific example then people loose their minds.