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It's designed for parents to enact parental controls on their children. If you're root, you're the parent. Obviously root can turn off parental controls.
by pocksuppet 7mo ago
It's designed for parents to enact parental controls on their children. If you're root, you're the parent. Obviously root can turn off parental controls.
- kykat 7mo agoI wouldn't be so sure, I think the ultimate goal is to link your network activity to your government id, just like the way it's done in China. So the only root left is the government basically.
- pocksuppet 7mo agoAre we talking about what actually happened, or are we talking about doomsday fantasies?
- throawayonthe 7mo agowe are talking about doomsday fantasies and equating them to doomsday fantasies about what is supposedly happening in china
- delusional 7mo agoWell I think the goal is to link it with hackernews account such that ycombinator can accuratly measure how many of their startups you're interacting with.
- lambda 7mo agoThe whole point of the California/Colorado laws is to provide an alternative to that. The whole point is that it provides a privacy preserving way to provide a signal about whether someone is in a particular age bracket, without requiring any kind of third party ID verification. I am so puzzled by everyone who objects so strongly to these operating system based opt in systems; all it does is provide for a way for a parent to indicate the age of a child's account, and an API for apps and browsers to get that information. If you're the owner/admin of a system, you get to set that information however you want, and it's required that it only provides ranges and not specific birthdays in order to be privacy preserving.
- macintux 7mo ago> I am so puzzled by everyone who objects so strongly to these operating system based opt in systems The government legislating APIs is an uncomfortable precedent given the culture wars that are raging right now. There seems little reason to expect this will stop here.
- pocksuppet 7mo agoWhat does "the government legislating APIs" mean? The ADA means every OS has to support screen readers.
- iamnothere 7mo agoBS. Does TempleOS support it? What about Plan9? MenuetOS? Are these illegal operating systems? Either you or someone else mentioned this talking point the other day, I asked for even a single example of an OS maker being sued over this successfully, and I got nothing.
- pocksuppet 7mo agoI believe those are illegal because they violate the ADA.
- lambda 7mo agoThey are not legislating specific APIs. They are legislating that an API has to be provided, just like other laws legislate that you have to provide accessibility APIs, but the details of the APIs are left up to the companies. I work in aviation, a highly regulated field. And that's a good thing. It does take some work to regulate well; there has been a migration in aviation to more prescriptive regulation about how things need to be, to less prescriptive like what the ultimate performance needs to be. But yeah, the aviation regulations aren't that you have to implement something a specific way, but that you have to be able to show that your aircraft has no more than a certain probability of catastrophic failure (where the probability varies base on certain things like the size and type of aircraft). For this age verification law, all that is required is that there is an API provided for this purpose, and there is a way for the owner of the machine to set up user accounts with age information indicated, and that the APIs need to provide several rough age ranges, not specific birthdays.
- iririririr 7mo agopocksuppet, please do tell us how it feels to be birthed by Google and Apple? or do you have root on your iPhone?