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That’s just not true. Most of the six unemployment numbers capture unemployed graduates but m3 the headline number certainly does.

asdff 7mo ago
How is this information collected? When I was looking for work after grad school I didn't report to anyone as such. The school had no idea whether or not I was actively looking. I was denied unemployment. I'm not sure what my info might have looked like on the IRS end if that is what is being abrogated.
- gruez 7mo ago
  https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.faq.htm https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.faq.htm It also specifically says unemployment figures isn't solely from state unemployment insurance figures.
  - asdff 7mo ago
    I see, so they don't capture that data well as they admit. household survey has a high margin of error. You have to also consider signal to noise ratio of some of these data and whether the survey even has the power to detect the signal. My grad school cohort for example was 15 people for the entire department. That is about as large as they get for PhD in most STEM fields. What are the odds this sort of employment sector is captured well in the household survey data?
    - kasey_junk 7mo ago
      This is perhaps the most well studied and validated data set that any government has ever produced. Their methodology and techniques are documented to the nth degree. "they" will admit whatever you want them to admit because they are stone cold professionals that are scrutinized by every political hack in the country and their datasets are poured over by teams of financial analysts across the globe every time they are released. You are an internet commenter that couldn't be bothered to read the summary of the article outlining some of the issues with their data collection, where the very first bullet point summary mentions its survey based. Perhaps you shouldn't try to argue from first principles without reading the _extensive_ documentation of methods and reports the BLS puts out. Lots of us have.
      - asdff 7mo ago
        So you are appealing to precedence and authority and not really addressing the underlying point being made.

asdff 7mo ago

How is this information collected? When I was looking for work after grad school I didn't report to anyone as such. The school had no idea whether or not I was actively looking. I was denied unemployment. I'm not sure what my info might have looked like on the IRS end if that is what is being abrogated.

gruez 7mo ago
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.faq.htm https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.faq.htm It also specifically says unemployment figures isn't solely from state unemployment insurance figures.
- asdff 7mo ago
  I see, so they don't capture that data well as they admit. household survey has a high margin of error. You have to also consider signal to noise ratio of some of these data and whether the survey even has the power to detect the signal. My grad school cohort for example was 15 people for the entire department. That is about as large as they get for PhD in most STEM fields. What are the odds this sort of employment sector is captured well in the household survey data?
  - kasey_junk 7mo ago
    This is perhaps the most well studied and validated data set that any government has ever produced. Their methodology and techniques are documented to the nth degree. "they" will admit whatever you want them to admit because they are stone cold professionals that are scrutinized by every political hack in the country and their datasets are poured over by teams of financial analysts across the globe every time they are released. You are an internet commenter that couldn't be bothered to read the summary of the article outlining some of the issues with their data collection, where the very first bullet point summary mentions its survey based. Perhaps you shouldn't try to argue from first principles without reading the _extensive_ documentation of methods and reports the BLS puts out. Lots of us have.
    - asdff 7mo ago
      So you are appealing to precedence and authority and not really addressing the underlying point being made.