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Only someone not using Claude could equate human coding.

• vips7L 7mo ago
  Only someone not using their brain could equate Claude to using their intelligence.
  • andrewstuart 7mo ago
    Let’s just clear this up …….. are you commenting with experience using the latest Claude, or are you commenting from personal beliefs. It’s fine for you to take a stand, but please understand your position is simply factually wrong if you think you can outprogram Claude for a range of common tasks. Being anti AI is fine, but if you deny facts of how far LLM programming has come then you lack credibility. The most effective anti AI position is to acknowledge it’s power, not pretend that vast numbers of people are somehow hallucinating the power of LLM assisted programming.
    • vips7L 7mo ago
      I absolutely can out program Claude. I can factually guarantee that. You’re factually wrong in your belief that you think a statistical model that scientifically takes the average of programming is better than those of us that actually know what we’re doing. Programming is not hard. You’re just lazy.
      • andrewstuart 7mo ago
        Ok so you speak with certainty about the capabilities of something you don’t use and therefore have no experience of. Childish and naive. If you said you’ve been using Claude heavily and it’s never done better than you on your own, then your position would be credible.
        • vips7L 7mo ago
          Sure pal. Keep outsourcing your job. I’ll be here when you need help and are unemployed.
          • thatguymike 7mo ago
            That’s… not how the labour market works
            • vips7L 7mo ago
              Of course. That’s because the labor market prefers cost over quality. The labour market will always prefer cheap and fast code that works at first glance. That is how capitalism works. That has nothing to do with my capabilities. It has nothing to do with the fact that I will always outperform a shitty statistical model. It has everything to do with the fact that most of you are too lazy to think. It has everything to do with most of you sucking and being too lazy to your job.
              • hewasahaterboy 7mo ago
                I think you need to take a deep breath and calm down.
                • vips7L 7mo ago
                  Perfectly calm mate. Maybe you should try to factually argue against my position? Probably not though. Your account was created 30 minutes ago and likely a bot.
                  • minimaxir 7mo ago
                    My account was created 14 years ago. You need to calm down. There is a reason discussions about agent use have been on Hacker News every other day, and it's not a grand conspiracy. Even in this submission, people have talked about how they have used Claude Code and its longer context window successfully as a tool for programming, even if they may be technically skilled to do it themselves. However, if you assume that every commenter is acting in bad faith, then there's no point in continuing.
      • therealdrag0 7mo ago
        It’s not that hard and yet Claude can’t do it? Why should I spend my mental energy doing simple things just to avoid being perceived as “lazy”? I have endless other engineering work to do other than typing code.
      • motoxpro 7mo ago
        Programming is one of those things where everyone thinks they are above average, like driving. If most people are average, then just use the bot to spit out average code. Or better yet, if you are above average, use it to spit out average code and then you need above average code, then write it. Most programming is boilerplate. Its not faster to type boilerplate than t is to have the robot do it. I promise. Programming is hard. If it wasn't you wouldn't be getting paid what you do.
    • prmph 7mo ago
      As someone mentioned on this thread, I can also easily out-engineer Claude Opus, lol its not even close. Note that I'm not talking about the low-level grunt work (and even with that, its just that it is tedious and time-consuming, but if I had enough time to read through all the docs and stuff, I will almost always produce grunt code of much higher quality). But I'm more talking about architecture, the stuff of proper higher level engineering. I use Claude Opus all the time, and I cannot even count how many times I've had to redirect its approach that was obviously betraying a complete lack of seeing the big picture, or some egregiously smelly architectural approach. Also, expressive typing. I use mostly TypeScript, and it will often give up when I try to push it beyond a certain point, and resort to using "any". Then I have to step and do the job myself.