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[stub for generic-indignant tangents - not what this site is for - please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/news

by dang 8mo ago

[stub for generic-indignant tangents - not what this site is for - please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html]

chairmanwow1 8mo ago
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- KennyBlanken 8mo ago
  So you deeply admire a man who threw a temper-tantrum when his giant box designed by a bunch of people with no experience in anything underwater or rescue, much less underwater rescue - and was deemed unusable to rescue people from an underwater cave with passages so small divers had to remove their gear and push it ahead of them? And repeatedly, directly, said the lead rescuer was a pedophile? You deeply admire a man so unable to restrain his ego and temper that much of his production team at Tesla quit, some right to his face, because they couldn't meet his nearly impossible goal of extreme levels of automation on the Model 3 production line? Which, if all else is ignored, cost Tesla billions in delays because of his demands? You deeply admire a many who is vehemently racist and misogynistic? You deeply admire a man who latches onto just about any conspiracy theory? You deeply admire a man who is so desperate for attention he unblocks himself from Twitter users' accounts? You deeply admire a man whose companies were under investigation by nearly every federal enforcement agency there is? You deeply admire a man who has failed to meet the vast majority of his own publicly stated benchmarks? And who engages in PT Barnum levels of bullshit, like having "AI robots" that are actually just robots piloted by unemployed actors? The man is a pathological liar who has failed upward not because of some sort of unique talent or skill, but because he's extremely abusive and willing to break any regulation or law he sees as inconvenient.
  - chairmanwow1 8mo ago
    Yes
epolanski 8mo ago
tbh I wouldn't give Elon a dime even if Grok was miles better than competition.
- knicholes 8mo ago
  Why?
  - reactordev 8mo ago
    Moral grandstanding on the account of his political views and the fact that he does Nazi salutes on stage, on TV, for the world to see… might have something to do with it.
  - skywhopper 8mo ago
    Because Elon is a criminal scam artist and a horrifying racist who seems to be completely detached from reality.
    - z3ratul163071 8mo ago
      if it weren't for HN i would get a glimpse how life is on bluesky
    - SunshineTheCat 8mo ago
      I really wish the days of kindergarten where we were taught if you didn't have anything nice to say about someone, don't say it at all.
      - lobf 8mo ago
        Sounds like giving a pass to bad people who might face criticism.
      - rexpop 8mo ago
        If this is how you feel about oligarchs, well... I guess don't have anything to say.
    - 8mo ago
heliumtera 8mo ago
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throwaway2027 8mo ago
Elon is such a clown, he keeps posting salty tweets about Anthropic, Claude Code, OpenAI and Codex yet has no competing product.
- charlieflowers 8mo ago
  He's about to have the most compute. Wonder if he can do anything noteworthy with it.
spprashant 8mo ago
He is re-building a company that he himself built less than 3 years ago?
- coliveira 8mo ago
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  - dang 8mo ago
    You've been a good HN user for many years, but lately your comment history has swerved towards ideological battle generally, and unsubstantive flamebait like this post. Can you please swerve back? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: before someone pounces, no, I'm in no way defending either E. Just trying to hold up HN.
    - Herring 8mo ago
      [flagged]
      - BoredPositron 8mo ago
        He is not wrong here dang and you are keen to scold one side of the bar more than the other in the last few months. This thread is a good example there wasn't even anything in the comments and it got a sticky real quick.
        johnnyanmac 8mo ago
        I'm not using surprised by the moderation direction here (formality above all). But stubs tend to be rare and I've never seen a stub develop over 2 top level comments. Even the most blatantly political posts don't get such treatment (or it takes a long time do so). I'm sure it's common for dead flagged posts, but it seems this story was too significant to pull over that smoke screen this time.
rishabhaiover 8mo ago
These kind of HN submissions test how fair discussions can be here: > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. Reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- johnnyanmac 8mo ago
  So, it utterly fails? A good part of the community still seems to be stuck in 2017 where Elon could do no wrong. Turns out a lot of not just wrong, but malice could be done in 9 years. And worse yet, incompetent malice. I don't know why that has to be a political statement these days, but thems the brakes here.
  - snackerblues 8mo ago
    Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.
    - johnnyanmac 8mo ago
      And I repeat > I don't know why [This person done bad actions] has to be a political statement these days, but thems the brakes here. Thanks for proving my point.
      - snackerblues 8mo ago
        You can always go back to Reddit
        johnnyanmac 8mo ago
        > When you burn enough bridges, the only way to move is forward I don't "move back", only move forward to the next community. Until that is compromised. Then the cycle repeats anew. I wonder which community, if any, will break that cycle.
      - 8mo ago
fishcrackers 8mo ago
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I_am_tiberius 8mo ago
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- pelorat 8mo ago
  Same, I earn 60K as a senior, but I would never accept a 200K+ position at xAI.
  - yndoendo 8mo ago
    As an US Citizen, you have to pay me to engage with Elon Musk's businesses. He is not a good person and does not deserve respect or admiration.
    - daveguy 8mo ago
      As a US citizen, you couldn't even pay me to engage with Elon Musk's businesses. He is not a good person and does not deserve respect or admiration.
- selkin 8mo ago
  Many wouldn't, but some people share his values, and given the compensation, it makes saying "no" much harder. Money may not be the most important thing in life, but it does make them extremely easier to live.
- sourcegrift 8mo ago
  [flagged]
  - ThrowawayTestr 8mo ago
    You're hilarious.
  - weirdmantis69 8mo ago
    lmao
- weirdmantis69 8mo ago
zombiwoof 8mo ago
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LightBug1 8mo ago
Elon Musk is a generic-indignant tangent wanker and not what this site is for. Thanks for providing a space for me to say that.
cboyardee 8mo ago
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by dang 8mo ago

[stub for generic-indignant tangents - not what this site is for - please see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html]

chairmanwow1 8mo ago

[flagged]

KennyBlanken 8mo ago
So you deeply admire a man who threw a temper-tantrum when his giant box designed by a bunch of people with no experience in anything underwater or rescue, much less underwater rescue - and was deemed unusable to rescue people from an underwater cave with passages so small divers had to remove their gear and push it ahead of them? And repeatedly, directly, said the lead rescuer was a pedophile? You deeply admire a man so unable to restrain his ego and temper that much of his production team at Tesla quit, some right to his face, because they couldn't meet his nearly impossible goal of extreme levels of automation on the Model 3 production line? Which, if all else is ignored, cost Tesla billions in delays because of his demands? You deeply admire a many who is vehemently racist and misogynistic? You deeply admire a man who latches onto just about any conspiracy theory? You deeply admire a man who is so desperate for attention he unblocks himself from Twitter users' accounts? You deeply admire a man whose companies were under investigation by nearly every federal enforcement agency there is? You deeply admire a man who has failed to meet the vast majority of his own publicly stated benchmarks? And who engages in PT Barnum levels of bullshit, like having "AI robots" that are actually just robots piloted by unemployed actors? The man is a pathological liar who has failed upward not because of some sort of unique talent or skill, but because he's extremely abusive and willing to break any regulation or law he sees as inconvenient.
- chairmanwow1 8mo ago
  Yes

epolanski 8mo ago

tbh I wouldn't give Elon a dime even if Grok was miles better than competition.

knicholes 8mo ago
Why?
- reactordev 8mo ago
  Moral grandstanding on the account of his political views and the fact that he does Nazi salutes on stage, on TV, for the world to see… might have something to do with it.
- skywhopper 8mo ago
  Because Elon is a criminal scam artist and a horrifying racist who seems to be completely detached from reality.
  - z3ratul163071 8mo ago
    if it weren't for HN i would get a glimpse how life is on bluesky
  - SunshineTheCat 8mo ago
    I really wish the days of kindergarten where we were taught if you didn't have anything nice to say about someone, don't say it at all.
    - lobf 8mo ago
      Sounds like giving a pass to bad people who might face criticism.
    - rexpop 8mo ago
      If this is how you feel about oligarchs, well... I guess don't have anything to say.
  - 8mo ago

heliumtera 8mo ago

[flagged]

throwaway2027 8mo ago

Elon is such a clown, he keeps posting salty tweets about Anthropic, Claude Code, OpenAI and Codex yet has no competing product.

charlieflowers 8mo ago
He's about to have the most compute. Wonder if he can do anything noteworthy with it.

spprashant 8mo ago

He is re-building a company that he himself built less than 3 years ago?

coliveira 8mo ago
[flagged]
- dang 8mo ago
  You've been a good HN user for many years, but lately your comment history has swerved towards ideological battle generally, and unsubstantive flamebait like this post. Can you please swerve back? It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: before someone pounces, no, I'm in no way defending either E. Just trying to hold up HN.
  - Herring 8mo ago
    [flagged]
    - BoredPositron 8mo ago
      He is not wrong here dang and you are keen to scold one side of the bar more than the other in the last few months. This thread is a good example there wasn't even anything in the comments and it got a sticky real quick.
      - johnnyanmac 8mo ago
        I'm not using surprised by the moderation direction here (formality above all). But stubs tend to be rare and I've never seen a stub develop over 2 top level comments. Even the most blatantly political posts don't get such treatment (or it takes a long time do so). I'm sure it's common for dead flagged posts, but it seems this story was too significant to pull over that smoke screen this time.

rishabhaiover 8mo ago

These kind of HN submissions test how fair discussions can be here: > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity. Reference: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

johnnyanmac 8mo ago
So, it utterly fails? A good part of the community still seems to be stuck in 2017 where Elon could do no wrong. Turns out a lot of not just wrong, but malice could be done in 9 years. And worse yet, incompetent malice. I don't know why that has to be a political statement these days, but thems the brakes here.
- snackerblues 8mo ago
  Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.
  - johnnyanmac 8mo ago
    And I repeat > I don't know why [This person done bad actions] has to be a political statement these days, but thems the brakes here. Thanks for proving my point.
    - snackerblues 8mo ago
      You can always go back to Reddit
      - johnnyanmac 8mo ago
        > When you burn enough bridges, the only way to move is forward I don't "move back", only move forward to the next community. Until that is compromised. Then the cycle repeats anew. I wonder which community, if any, will break that cycle.
    - 8mo ago

fishcrackers 8mo ago

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I_am_tiberius 8mo ago

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pelorat 8mo ago
Same, I earn 60K as a senior, but I would never accept a 200K+ position at xAI.
- yndoendo 8mo ago
  As an US Citizen, you have to pay me to engage with Elon Musk's businesses. He is not a good person and does not deserve respect or admiration.
  - daveguy 8mo ago
    As a US citizen, you couldn't even pay me to engage with Elon Musk's businesses. He is not a good person and does not deserve respect or admiration.
selkin 8mo ago
Many wouldn't, but some people share his values, and given the compensation, it makes saying "no" much harder. Money may not be the most important thing in life, but it does make them extremely easier to live.
sourcegrift 8mo ago
[flagged]
- ThrowawayTestr 8mo ago
  You're hilarious.
- weirdmantis69 8mo ago
  lmao
weirdmantis69 8mo ago

zombiwoof 8mo ago

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LightBug1 8mo ago

Elon Musk is a generic-indignant tangent wanker and not what this site is for. Thanks for providing a space for me to say that.

cboyardee 8mo ago

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