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Took 6 minutes from power button to login prompt this morning. Probably even longer from login responsive desktop. So yes, probably!
by nazgulsenpai 7mo ago
Took 6 minutes from power button to login prompt this morning. Probably even longer from login responsive desktop. So yes, probably!
- amluto 7mo agoI’ve helped someone with a rather clean iMac, circa 2019, still supported by Apple. Forget 6 minutes — you can spend a full hour from boot to giving up trying to get anything done. I think that Apple has gotten so used to having fast storage in their machines that the newer OSes basically don’t work on spinning rust.
- asimovDev 7mo agothese iMacs have horrible Fusion drives (128GB SSD + 1TB HDD combo) iirc that fail often. Have you looked into that?
- kstrauser 7mo agoI bet this is it. I had a 2018 Mac Mini with a failing drive that moved like frozen molasses, but wasn't throwing obvious errors. Before it failed, it was slow compared to an SSD, but booted up in a reasonable amount of time and ran office apps just fine, just with a little startup lag. It was bad compared to an SDD, but not intolerably slow. If a Mac is running that slowly, there's probably a hardware issue.
- amluto 7mo agoIs there some reasonable way to check whether the Fusion drive is failing? Some quick searches suggest that Apple’s built in tooling doesn’t actually help much.
- kstrauser 7mo agoSorry, I don't remember the details and it was several years ago. I do remember looking at the Console log and seeing lots of drive timeouts.
- p_ing 7mo agoAPFS is not designed for spinning rust, so that tracks.
- asimovDev 7mo agowhat? on a semi modern CPU and a SATA / M2 SSD?? My Vista laptop on a spinning drive took that long to boot I am pretty sure. I am flabbergasted if this is true
- nazgulsenpai 7mo agoi5-1145g7, 16gb ddr5, nvme storage You should be flabbergasted. It's ridiculous.