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Remember all the e/acc people telling us to vote for Trump? Some mea-culpas are in order.

by coreyh14444 7mo ago

lpcvoid 7mo ago
The kind of people who voted for trump would never admit they made a mistake. They double down on stupidity instead.
- deleted 7mo ago
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- rootusrootus 7mo ago
  For better or worse, Donald Trump has absolutely earned his place in the history books. There will be so many lessons from this era, though I think it is very much open to debate what form those lessons will take and which ones will be the most consequential.
  - Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
    To be honest, much of the lessons of this were something that we could've already looked back during all the wars humanity has fought all throughout history to learn from. We are in here, because we didn't learn from our history. You feel this way because this is recent and its hitting everything all at once but I do feel like these were all very avoidable lessons. Being honest, I don't feel like we learnt anything new aside from seeing how the world is still trying to clutch itself back to stability even after all the instability Donald Trump is causing within the world (for better or for worse) and seeing how the world reacts to all of this live. But I am not quite sure if future will learn from these lessons given that its feeling to me like history doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes and we somehow don't really learn from the history to be honest.
- GeorgeWBasic 7mo ago
  That isn't true. There's actually a large number of people, probably in the millions, but probably not a majority of those who voted for him, who no longer support him in any way. And of the ones who remain, yes: they're pretty dense to still support him now. There are some lunatics who genuinely believe that the US has the right to dominate and exploit all other nations, but the majority of them simply believe the lies he's telling. I've already seen that when they are confronted with the facts about, say, Gaza, some of them can change their minds. It would be a mistake to turn them away instead of treating them like potential allies. There really is something more important at stake.
  - twodave 7mo ago
    And yet others who are able to disagree with some (or even many) of his decisions while also continuing to believe he was the better of the 2 options. Most people I know hate politics or anything to do with it for this very reason. We can argue about political philosophy all day long but eventually you go vote and often have to choose between a wildcard and the walking dead.
- tzs 7mo ago
  /r/LeopardsAteMyFace contains many counterexamples.
fhdkweig 7mo ago
Could you define the acronym "e/acc"? DDG seems to think it means: "What Does E/Acc Stand For, And What Does It Mean? E/acc stands for the phrase effective accelerationism, and it basically indicates one's personal ideological belief that artificial intelligence will one day become an all-powerful being that can fix the vast majority of humanity's problems." I don't think I have ever heard a MAGA talk about AI.
- spiderfarmer 7mo ago
  The MAGA Web3 bros have all switched to the Clawdbot hypetrain, still flogging courses and slop.
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- overfeed 7mo ago
  > I don't think I have ever heard a MAGA talk about AI. Lots of ex-Bitcoin-bros turned AI hypemen went all-in on maga for Trump II. Even the silicon valley C-Suites and VC-class went mask-off around February 2025. Some have tried to walk it back since then, after realizing the administration they had hitched their wagons to didn't have the mandate or levels of public support they had hoped for - thankfully, the internet never forgets.
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karmakurtisaani 7mo ago
Even the nation's #1 dingleberry Joe Rogan is now turning against Trump. Would be a great time for folks to start admitting they fell for it again.
- rootusrootus 7mo ago
  I will dare to admit aloud that I think maybe the founders were making a rational choice when they decided that only certain citizens would have the right to vote. As awful as that sounds, there are halfway decent arguments in favor. Maybe not just restricting to white wealthy landowners, but sometimes I do wonder if we would benefit from a filter that adequately screens for people 1) with real skin in the game and 2) a plausible claim to being well informed. That is just a thought experiment, though, I do not believe it would play out beneficially if we tried to implement it in real life.
  - karmakurtisaani 7mo ago
    I like this idea in theory. In practice, the problem is that someone gets to decide who is allowed to vote and on what grounds. If that institution is corrupted, it leads to worse outcome than allowing everyone to vote. And the bad actors would have all the incentives in the world to corrupt that institution.
  - overfeed 7mo ago
    > Maybe not just restricting to white wealthy landowners, Some of those people are not white and/or not straight. They - very incorrectly - think that wealth will shield them from the sharp teeth of White Christian Nationalism. They should consult with the Log Cabin Republicans and women who voted for both Trump and enshrining abortion into their state's constitution on the same ballot.
  - cyberax 7mo ago
    Everybody should be allowed to vote, except for people who don't want everyone to vote.
    - 7mo ago
rootusrootus 7mo ago
We live in the dumbest possible timeline. As someone who came of age in the late 80s and was lucky enough to fully experience the 90s and 2000s ... what we have done in the last 20 years makes me sad. I never saw this coming. I admit that I maintained my delusion even though I was in OKC in 1995. Should have been a wake-up call.
marcosdumay 7mo ago
Hum... He seems to be doing the most accelerationist government from recent history of any large or rich country.

Remember all the e/acc people telling us to vote for Trump? Some mea-culpas are in order.

lpcvoid 7mo ago

The kind of people who voted for trump would never admit they made a mistake. They double down on stupidity instead.

deleted 7mo ago
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rootusrootus 7mo ago
For better or worse, Donald Trump has absolutely earned his place in the history books. There will be so many lessons from this era, though I think it is very much open to debate what form those lessons will take and which ones will be the most consequential.
- Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
  To be honest, much of the lessons of this were something that we could've already looked back during all the wars humanity has fought all throughout history to learn from. We are in here, because we didn't learn from our history. You feel this way because this is recent and its hitting everything all at once but I do feel like these were all very avoidable lessons. Being honest, I don't feel like we learnt anything new aside from seeing how the world is still trying to clutch itself back to stability even after all the instability Donald Trump is causing within the world (for better or for worse) and seeing how the world reacts to all of this live. But I am not quite sure if future will learn from these lessons given that its feeling to me like history doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes and we somehow don't really learn from the history to be honest.
GeorgeWBasic 7mo ago
That isn't true. There's actually a large number of people, probably in the millions, but probably not a majority of those who voted for him, who no longer support him in any way. And of the ones who remain, yes: they're pretty dense to still support him now. There are some lunatics who genuinely believe that the US has the right to dominate and exploit all other nations, but the majority of them simply believe the lies he's telling. I've already seen that when they are confronted with the facts about, say, Gaza, some of them can change their minds. It would be a mistake to turn them away instead of treating them like potential allies. There really is something more important at stake.
- twodave 7mo ago
  And yet others who are able to disagree with some (or even many) of his decisions while also continuing to believe he was the better of the 2 options. Most people I know hate politics or anything to do with it for this very reason. We can argue about political philosophy all day long but eventually you go vote and often have to choose between a wildcard and the walking dead.
tzs 7mo ago
/r/LeopardsAteMyFace contains many counterexamples.

fhdkweig 7mo ago

Could you define the acronym "e/acc"? DDG seems to think it means: "What Does E/Acc Stand For, And What Does It Mean? E/acc stands for the phrase effective accelerationism, and it basically indicates one's personal ideological belief that artificial intelligence will one day become an all-powerful being that can fix the vast majority of humanity's problems." I don't think I have ever heard a MAGA talk about AI.

spiderfarmer 7mo ago
The MAGA Web3 bros have all switched to the Clawdbot hypetrain, still flogging courses and slop.
deleted 7mo ago
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overfeed 7mo ago
> I don't think I have ever heard a MAGA talk about AI. Lots of ex-Bitcoin-bros turned AI hypemen went all-in on maga for Trump II. Even the silicon valley C-Suites and VC-class went mask-off around February 2025. Some have tried to walk it back since then, after realizing the administration they had hitched their wagons to didn't have the mandate or levels of public support they had hoped for - thankfully, the internet never forgets.

deleted 7mo ago

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karmakurtisaani 7mo ago

Even the nation's #1 dingleberry Joe Rogan is now turning against Trump. Would be a great time for folks to start admitting they fell for it again.

rootusrootus 7mo ago
I will dare to admit aloud that I think maybe the founders were making a rational choice when they decided that only certain citizens would have the right to vote. As awful as that sounds, there are halfway decent arguments in favor. Maybe not just restricting to white wealthy landowners, but sometimes I do wonder if we would benefit from a filter that adequately screens for people 1) with real skin in the game and 2) a plausible claim to being well informed. That is just a thought experiment, though, I do not believe it would play out beneficially if we tried to implement it in real life.
- karmakurtisaani 7mo ago
  I like this idea in theory. In practice, the problem is that someone gets to decide who is allowed to vote and on what grounds. If that institution is corrupted, it leads to worse outcome than allowing everyone to vote. And the bad actors would have all the incentives in the world to corrupt that institution.
- overfeed 7mo ago
  > Maybe not just restricting to white wealthy landowners, Some of those people are not white and/or not straight. They - very incorrectly - think that wealth will shield them from the sharp teeth of White Christian Nationalism. They should consult with the Log Cabin Republicans and women who voted for both Trump and enshrining abortion into their state's constitution on the same ballot.
- cyberax 7mo ago
  Everybody should be allowed to vote, except for people who don't want everyone to vote.
  - 7mo ago

rootusrootus 7mo ago

We live in the dumbest possible timeline. As someone who came of age in the late 80s and was lucky enough to fully experience the 90s and 2000s ... what we have done in the last 20 years makes me sad. I never saw this coming. I admit that I maintained my delusion even though I was in OKC in 1995. Should have been a wake-up call.

marcosdumay 7mo ago

Hum... He seems to be doing the most accelerationist government from recent history of any large or rich country.