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You can't install a different OS on these? Are they different from the M series? Because those have Asahi Linux.
by wolvoleo 8mo ago
You can't install a different OS on these? Are they different from the M series? Because those have Asahi Linux.
- artimaeis 8mo agoAsahi only supports M1 and M2 series Macs currently. The Neo uses an A18 Pro, which was only ever in an iPhone before. I wouldn’t count on Asahi coming to these soon.
- MBCook 8mo agoI see no reason they couldn’t. But we know there’s lots of other models that they’re already working on. We don’t know how similar or different it is from an OS perspective.
- adrian_b 8mo agoThe reason is the lack of documentation from Apple. Reverse engineering needs a lot of time and hard work, which may not be worthwhile. Sometimes someone does this work, and everyone may benefit from it, but you should never count on this happening, unless you do the work yourself.
- zozbot234 8mo agoReverse engineered documentation is very often preferable to the internal kind, which is not necessarily accurate. So either way, the Asahi folks are doing valuable work.
- gedy 8mo agoMaybe some of these agentic AI superstars can point their 100x engineering chops at this. This would impress me but not going to hold my breath for that.
- TheDong 8mo agoAsahi linux effectively only supports the M1 and M2 chips, so even a modern macbook air won't work, and even on "supported devices" you can't use thunderbolt or a usb-c display yet. These use the A series chip, and even supporting new M chip revisions has been enough of an undertaking that I wouldn't really expect this to get Asahi linux anytime soon.... And apple can lock down the bootloader to be closer to the iPad/iPhone at any time with no notice, and based on their past actions, it would be quite in-line with their character to do so.
- brookst 8mo agoBy “past actions”, do you mean doing extra work to make the bootloader support other operating systems? https://asahilinux.org/docs/platform/introduction/ https://asahilinux.org/docs/platform/introduction/
- zozbot234 8mo agoThe Asahi folks have also demonstrated M3 support, though without GPU-accelerated graphics (the M3 GPU is very different from the M1 or M2). Much of the effort is currently on getting the existing components upstream.
- raw_anon_1111 8mo agoSurprisingly enough you don’t need Linux to learn about computers. You know that Macs have terminal?
- bigyabai 8mo agoThe default Mac terminal environment is the Weetabix of UNIX-likes. You need GNU coreutils to do pretty much anything.
- hollerith 8mo agoName one thing lacking in the utilities included with MacOS (which come from BSD).
- bigyabai 8mo agoThe overwhelming majority of UNIX-like software isn't designed for BSD runtimes, to name one.
- hollerith 8mo agoI ask for a specific example, and you respond with more generalities.
- freeone3000 8mo agoAside from the BSD software, the Mac software, and all the software that’s actually POSIX-compliant (on purpose or by accident).
- veltas 8mo agoThe overwhelming majority of UNIX-like software is available in the package managers right now for major BSDs.
- raw_anon_1111 8mo agoSo exactly eves “Unix like software” will kids be missing that prevents them from learning about computers?