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I hate this headline (not blaming submitter). Police incompetence and negligence jailed her for months and left her stranded in a North Dakota winter. The AI is
by neaden 7mo ago
I hate this headline (not blaming submitter). Police incompetence and negligence jailed her for months and left her stranded in a North Dakota winter. The AI is no more responsible than the cars and airplanes they used.
Edit: this is in reference to the original headline "AI error jails innocent grandmother for months in North Dakota fraud case" not the revised title that it was changed to.
- conartist6 7mo ago[flagged]
- PTOB 7mo agoNo indication that the licking was consentual.
- nkrisc 7mo agoAnd that is a complete failure of the police and authorities. They made the decision to extradite her with such flimsy evidence.
- conartist6 7mo agoIf it didn't erase accountability, how would it create any value? Many people are treating this as a matter of philosophy, which it isn't. At a primitive, physiological level if you delegate to AI and most of the time you don't get in trouble for it, the resulting relationship you have with the AI could only be called "trust". If you're expected to be 40% more productive at your job, your employer is making it crystal clear that you will trust the AI or you will be fired. Even if nobody ever said it, the sales pitch is that AI does the work and people are mostly there to be their servants whose role is to keep them fed with decisions we want made but don't want to be responsible for making.
- DangitBobby 7mo agoThe value is creates is obvious: finding a needle in a haystack. Is accountability laundering another potential benefit? Sure. Can we stop pretending we don't understand understand the other side of it? Cynicism is nice and all but after a certain point it eventually wraps around and makes us look naive.
- conartist6 7mo agoUnlimited power, no accountability, and no morals or consequences. It surely sounds like a recipe for pure evil. This AI committed an imprisonable offense against society, an act of criminal negligence born of pure sociopathy. Throw the clanker in the clink.
- dmurray 7mo agoEven if she was guilty, they shouldn't have imprisoned her for 3+ months without interviewing her. The AI didn't tell them to do that.
- throw-the-towel 7mo agoI think you actually agree with the GP? As I understand them, they're saying that it's not the AI tool that takes the most blame, it's the police.
- rpdillon 7mo agoAnd the police were wrong, which is why they're the culpable ones.
- Chris2048 7mo agoEven if the id was correct, why would they leave her in jail for 5 months before the first interview and/or court appearance?
- like_any_other 7mo ago> Clearly the police felt the AI was "responsible enough" to be the only thing they needed to trust. Yes, that's what the OPs "incompetence and negligence" referred to.
- add-sub-mul-div 7mo agoYour picking apart the words doesn't matter if police are more incompetent with AI than without it. AI being the catalyst to a worse society is a more interesting and worthwhile topic than whether "AI is responsible" is the right way to phrase it.
- _m_p 7mo agoA jury will probably decide the AI company's level of responsibility at trial. It is an open question til then!
- mirekrusin 7mo agoBrave police officers wanted to show us all the dangers of AI slop.
- mmooss 7mo agoIf you make the AI software, then your software malfunctioned. If the laser printer screws up a page in the middle of the document, and the user doesn't catch it and includes it in the board of directors binder, the laser printer still malfunctioned.
- neaden 7mo agoSure, and if the headline had been that it misidentified an innocent person I wouldn't have had a problem, it's specifically saying the AI jailed her that I think is a dangerous framing by removing police responsibility. In the same way in your example I wouldn't say "Laser Printer gives bad presentation"