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Geez. Good one. Was in something similar lately. 10 weeks wasted and a shittiest feedback ever. These companies should be legally required to pay candidates for

by xlii 7mo ago

Geez. Good one. Was in something similar lately. 10 weeks wasted and a shittiest feedback ever. These companies should be legally required to pay candidates for gauntlets they put them through.

ossa-ma 7mo ago
The lack of feedback is the worst part and is increasingly more common. Zero respect for the candidates time investment and propagates a terrible culture.
- whatever1 7mo ago
  Most of big-CO legal teams do not allow for feedback to be communicated to the candidates. They are afraid the candidates will sue base on that. That is not new.
  - _DeadFred_ 7mo ago
    Our entire system is getting so bogged down by things like this that it is ceasing to function. Lots of things that make sense individually but are breaking the previous social contract, or removing the grease that made things work.
    - joquarky 7mo ago
      Systems without slack are brittle.
  - lurking_swe 7mo ago
    They could at least allow hiring teams to send out a feedback email that highlights what the candidate did WELL, at a high level. This way the candidate gets some meaningful signal, while the company avoids the legal gray area of admitting why they rejected them. Just add a disclaimer like “unfortunately company policy prohibits us from explicitly mentioning why we chose another candidate.” But you’d need to actually care to take something like that into consideration so… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    - whatever1 7mo ago
      Have you ever talked to a lawyer? The only thing that they keep repeating is "shut your mouth".
      - randomNumber7 7mo ago
        Which is the right advise when you live in the current society.
        Gander5739 7mo ago
        Advice. (Yes, it's a compulsion; I can't help myself.)
- Otterly99 7mo ago
  Some jobs that I interviewed replied with an automated email saying that, if I wanted, I could ask for feedback. I always did and none of them replied... This somehow feels even more insulting.
IshKebab 7mo ago
Once I got really detailed feedback from an interview for a job I didn't get. It really took me by surprise! I didn't even have to ask. It was quite interesting too because the things they'd inferred about me - stuff that I had understood or not understood - were just plain wrong. I didn't get everything right, but some bits I did understand fine, they thought I didn't. I'm not sure what to take from that, other than that it's not about knowing stuff, it's about convincing someone else that you know stuff. Also I'm about to do a hardcore leetcode interview. Wish me luck. (I'm probably going to fail; I'm pretty great at programming but only average at leetcode.)
- xlii 7mo ago
  Fingers crossed. One thing to keep in mind is that leetcode is testing (surprise) social anxiety. You can be a great engineer, terrific peer to have in the time when crisis hits but still fail at leetcode problem because someone is watching.

by xlii 7mo ago

Geez. Good one. Was in something similar lately. 10 weeks wasted and a shittiest feedback ever. These companies should be legally required to pay candidates for gauntlets they put them through.

ossa-ma 7mo ago

The lack of feedback is the worst part and is increasingly more common. Zero respect for the candidates time investment and propagates a terrible culture.

whatever1 7mo ago
Most of big-CO legal teams do not allow for feedback to be communicated to the candidates. They are afraid the candidates will sue base on that. That is not new.
- _DeadFred_ 7mo ago
  Our entire system is getting so bogged down by things like this that it is ceasing to function. Lots of things that make sense individually but are breaking the previous social contract, or removing the grease that made things work.
  - joquarky 7mo ago
    Systems without slack are brittle.
- lurking_swe 7mo ago
  They could at least allow hiring teams to send out a feedback email that highlights what the candidate did WELL, at a high level. This way the candidate gets some meaningful signal, while the company avoids the legal gray area of admitting why they rejected them. Just add a disclaimer like “unfortunately company policy prohibits us from explicitly mentioning why we chose another candidate.” But you’d need to actually care to take something like that into consideration so… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  - whatever1 7mo ago
    Have you ever talked to a lawyer? The only thing that they keep repeating is "shut your mouth".
    - randomNumber7 7mo ago
      Which is the right advise when you live in the current society.
      - Gander5739 7mo ago
        Advice. (Yes, it's a compulsion; I can't help myself.)
Otterly99 7mo ago
Some jobs that I interviewed replied with an automated email saying that, if I wanted, I could ask for feedback. I always did and none of them replied... This somehow feels even more insulting.

IshKebab 7mo ago

Once I got really detailed feedback from an interview for a job I didn't get. It really took me by surprise! I didn't even have to ask. It was quite interesting too because the things they'd inferred about me - stuff that I had understood or not understood - were just plain wrong. I didn't get everything right, but some bits I did understand fine, they thought I didn't. I'm not sure what to take from that, other than that it's not about knowing stuff, it's about convincing someone else that you know stuff. Also I'm about to do a hardcore leetcode interview. Wish me luck. (I'm probably going to fail; I'm pretty great at programming but only average at leetcode.)

xlii 7mo ago
Fingers crossed. One thing to keep in mind is that leetcode is testing (surprise) social anxiety. You can be a great engineer, terrific peer to have in the time when crisis hits but still fail at leetcode problem because someone is watching.