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But just a month ago everyone in the discussion about freedom.gov was saying that Europe doesn't restrict internet! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=470672

But just a month ago everyone in the discussion about freedom.gov was saying that Europe doesn't restrict internet! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47067270 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47067270

chii 7mo ago
but now the definition of europe becomes europe but not UK, since it's convenient to maintain the argument rather than discuss the real underlying issue!
- cucumber3732842 7mo ago
  Shrodinger's continent. You don't know what it contains until you know what policy position you need to argue for/against.
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mhitza 7mo ago
Big exaggeration. Opened the link and with the dozen comments or so that I've seen there is no rhetoric of the kind your asserting. We know from France, UK, Spain, Italy that censorship is ramping up rather than down. Still not a good enough excuse for freedom.gov when the current US agenda is to support the right wing organizations in Europe.
tw-20260303-001 7mo ago
Well, UK is just one small part of Europe. You probably also confuse Europe and the EU.
- akersten 7mo ago
  Oh, no, not that Europe. You were of course talking about the Europe with Spain (oh wait, La Liga has a cloudflare kill switch). You were of course talking about the Europe with Italy (oh wait, the Piracy Shield). You were of course talking about the Europe with Turkyie (oh wait, ...
  - tw-20260303-001 7mo ago
    "Oh wait, I cannot download porn, stolen software, and stolen media". Censorship! /s
    - akersten 7mo ago
      That definitionally is censorship, whether you think its effects are just or not.
  - vinni2 7mo ago
    Ok go on finish your sentence.
    - akersten 7mo ago
      I shouldn't need to - if it doesn't foundationally offend you that Spain has endorsed a private entity with the ability to routinely turn off part of the Internet for their own private convenience then fundamentally we have a different view about how this whole thing should work.
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sveme 7mo ago
Out of curiosity, do you expect that freedom.gov will contain socialist, communist, extreme left-wing or islamist point of views?

chii 7mo ago

but now the definition of europe becomes europe but not UK, since it's convenient to maintain the argument rather than discuss the real underlying issue!

cucumber3732842 7mo ago
Shrodinger's continent. You don't know what it contains until you know what policy position you need to argue for/against.

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mhitza 7mo ago

Big exaggeration. Opened the link and with the dozen comments or so that I've seen there is no rhetoric of the kind your asserting. We know from France, UK, Spain, Italy that censorship is ramping up rather than down. Still not a good enough excuse for freedom.gov when the current US agenda is to support the right wing organizations in Europe.

tw-20260303-001 7mo ago

Well, UK is just one small part of Europe. You probably also confuse Europe and the EU.

akersten 7mo ago
Oh, no, not that Europe. You were of course talking about the Europe with Spain (oh wait, La Liga has a cloudflare kill switch). You were of course talking about the Europe with Italy (oh wait, the Piracy Shield). You were of course talking about the Europe with Turkyie (oh wait, ...
- tw-20260303-001 7mo ago
  "Oh wait, I cannot download porn, stolen software, and stolen media". Censorship! /s
  - akersten 7mo ago
    That definitionally is censorship, whether you think its effects are just or not.
- vinni2 7mo ago
  Ok go on finish your sentence.
  - akersten 7mo ago
    I shouldn't need to - if it doesn't foundationally offend you that Spain has endorsed a private entity with the ability to routinely turn off part of the Internet for their own private convenience then fundamentally we have a different view about how this whole thing should work.
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sveme 7mo ago

Out of curiosity, do you expect that freedom.gov will contain socialist, communist, extreme left-wing or islamist point of views?