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Note that 8GB of ram on a Mac plays out a lot more different than 8GB on a PC. I work professionally on a Macbook Air 16GB now and I have quite a few docker im

by keyle 7mo ago

Note that 8GB of ram on a Mac plays out a lot more different than 8GB on a PC. I work professionally on a Macbook Air 16GB now and I have quite a few docker images and services running bare metal, + browser, vscode etc. on top. Not a problem until I start loading up some LLMs. The paging works wonderfully well; an advantage of everything being fused. If anything, I'm much more bound by the CPU limitations and the eco-cores than the memory. On a PC, I wouldn't think about less than 32GB for a dev pc. If I had a fulltime gig programming C, I'd even say I could work on this A14 8GB device. Why not? It's as powerful as a 10 year old powerful machine; probably. Or in that ballpark.

pjmlp 7mo ago
PC work just fine with 16 GB, that is coping with Apple limitations. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255765423?sortBy=rank https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255765423?sortBy=rank Why on Earth do I need a 32 GB PC?!? Turbo C also worked just fine with 640 KB in MS-DOS, but then again MS-DOS wasn't full of Electron crap.
- foldr 7mo ago
  There are lots of reviews on YouTube of people demoing the performance of the Neo in typical non-power-user usage scenarios (multiple apps, lots of browser tabs, etc.) It works perfectly fine for typical consumer usage.
Rohansi 7mo ago
> The paging works wonderfully well; an advantage of everything being fused. I think it's more of a combination of 1) lower baseline usage by macOS and 2) your swap is guaranteed to be on a fast SSD (1.5+ GB/s read/write). Also when you buy a budget PC they cut back on everything, while you get roughly the same SoC across the board for Mac (give or take a few cores). There are absolutely horrid CPUs, GPUs, and SSDs still being released today! If you cut your budget too much you can get a slow E-core only CPU with a no name SSD that's barely faster than a HDD. Hopefully the MacBook Neo puts pressure on manufacturers to do better.

by keyle 7mo ago

pjmlp 7mo ago

PC work just fine with 16 GB, that is coping with Apple limitations. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255765423?sortBy=rank https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255765423?sortBy=rank Why on Earth do I need a 32 GB PC?!? Turbo C also worked just fine with 640 KB in MS-DOS, but then again MS-DOS wasn't full of Electron crap.

foldr 7mo ago
There are lots of reviews on YouTube of people demoing the performance of the Neo in typical non-power-user usage scenarios (multiple apps, lots of browser tabs, etc.) It works perfectly fine for typical consumer usage.

Rohansi 7mo ago

> The paging works wonderfully well; an advantage of everything being fused. I think it's more of a combination of 1) lower baseline usage by macOS and 2) your swap is guaranteed to be on a fast SSD (1.5+ GB/s read/write). Also when you buy a budget PC they cut back on everything, while you get roughly the same SoC across the board for Mac (give or take a few cores). There are absolutely horrid CPUs, GPUs, and SSDs still being released today! If you cut your budget too much you can get a slow E-core only CPU with a no name SSD that's barely faster than a HDD. Hopefully the MacBook Neo puts pressure on manufacturers to do better.