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PC Magazine came to the same conclusion: > Apple pulled off what I thought wasn't possible. The MacBook Neo is poised to set the budget-laptop world on fire as

PC Magazine came to the same conclusion: > Apple pulled off what I thought wasn't possible. The MacBook Neo is poised to set the budget-laptop world on fire as a $599 system that's better-built and sharper than anything else at or below its price. https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/apple-macbook-neo https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/apple-macbook-neo Similar to the Verge: > even the cheapest MacBook Neo is good enough to be the go-to Apple laptop for a lot of people. Actually, not just the go-to Apple laptop; the Neo’s hardware simultaneously embarrasses an entire class of affordable (and even far pricier) Windows laptops, as well as just about any Chromebook. And the thing runs on an iPhone chip. https://www.theverge.com/tech/891741/apple-macbook-neo-a18-pro-review https://www.theverge.com/tech/891741/apple-macbook-neo-a18-p...

hulitu 7mo ago
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- bdbdbdb 7mo ago
  *Gb not Mb
- lukevp 7mo ago
  What better options?
- akagr 7mo ago
  Go beyond the specs, though. Which windows laptops have similar combination of all metal build with tight tolerances, a display hinge that doesn’t wobble, a nice keyboard and even close to similar feeling trackpad at this 600 dollar price point? Most non haptic trackpads are dive board designs where you can only press the lower part of it because they hinge from the top, whereas as Neo’s trackpad is completely floating and can be pressed even on the very top. Also, one of main target audiences - students - can have this for much cheaper with education pricing. If quality and in-hand feel matters to you at all, you’ll be hard pressed to find a more well rounded laptop than a MacBook at any price point.
  - lostmsu 7mo ago
    As I said in another thread $650 HP OmniBook 5 on Ryzen is faster, more RAM, feels great to use, and I don't have to deal with MacOS!
    - tuesdaynight 7mo ago
      IMO, there's nothing comparable to MacBook Air in its price range if you are an average user. Neo is even better in that aspect. The model you cited sounds better if you are planning to use Linux and are computer literate. But if you just want something that is good (not perfect) at everything usual, a MacBook is a no-brainer.
      - lostmsu 7mo ago
        I don't think MacOS is better than Windows, so I disagree with that take.
        bigyabai 7mo ago
        Most people that I have interacted with consider macOS to be more confusing and less usable than Windows. It's not just you.
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    - wlesieutre 7mo ago
      To save anyone else trying to figure out what computer lostmsu is talking about, at least going by the current prices on HP's website (not MSRP): HP OmniBook 5 Laptop Next Gen AI 16-fb0037nr If I were shopping for a cheap laptop I would have given up and bought a Macbook Neo before I found that one.
      - lostmsu 7mo ago
        Sorry about that, here's a link where you can buy one: https://www.staples.com/hp-omnibook-5-16-2k-laptop-copilot-pc-amd-ryzen-ai-7-350-16gb-ram-1tb-ssd-16-75-hours-battery-windows-11-home/product_24631793?cid=EM:ordconfrm::sku& https://www.staples.com/hp-omnibook-5-16-2k-laptop-copilot-p... I have no affiliation with them of any kind
- stetrain 7mo ago
  It definitely would have competitive issues with 8MB RAM and a 256MB SSD. Knocking it for having a tablet processor means you haven't actually been paying attention to Apple's in-house processor development.
dang 7mo ago
(We've since merged the threads, but the pcmag.com link is in the toptext above)
- cromulent 7mo ago
  I understand the need to join the conversations about the same topic. Thanks for keeping the URLs separate. Reading Gruber's long form considered article is very different to reading some second hand Asus executive "shock" comments.
- GeekyBear 7mo ago
  The comment was originally in a thread discussing Engadget's take: > MacBook Neo review: Apple puts every $600 Windows PC to shame https://www.engadget.com/computing/laptops/macbook-neo-review-apple-puts-every-600-windows-pc-to-shame-130000878.html https://www.engadget.com/computing/laptops/macbook-neo-revie...

hulitu 7mo ago

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bdbdbdb 7mo ago
*Gb not Mb
lukevp 7mo ago
What better options?
akagr 7mo ago
Go beyond the specs, though. Which windows laptops have similar combination of all metal build with tight tolerances, a display hinge that doesn’t wobble, a nice keyboard and even close to similar feeling trackpad at this 600 dollar price point? Most non haptic trackpads are dive board designs where you can only press the lower part of it because they hinge from the top, whereas as Neo’s trackpad is completely floating and can be pressed even on the very top. Also, one of main target audiences - students - can have this for much cheaper with education pricing. If quality and in-hand feel matters to you at all, you’ll be hard pressed to find a more well rounded laptop than a MacBook at any price point.
- lostmsu 7mo ago
  As I said in another thread $650 HP OmniBook 5 on Ryzen is faster, more RAM, feels great to use, and I don't have to deal with MacOS!
  - tuesdaynight 7mo ago
    IMO, there's nothing comparable to MacBook Air in its price range if you are an average user. Neo is even better in that aspect. The model you cited sounds better if you are planning to use Linux and are computer literate. But if you just want something that is good (not perfect) at everything usual, a MacBook is a no-brainer.
    - lostmsu 7mo ago
      I don't think MacOS is better than Windows, so I disagree with that take.
      - bigyabai 7mo ago
        Most people that I have interacted with consider macOS to be more confusing and less usable than Windows. It's not just you.
  - deleted 7mo ago
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  - wlesieutre 7mo ago
    To save anyone else trying to figure out what computer lostmsu is talking about, at least going by the current prices on HP's website (not MSRP): HP OmniBook 5 Laptop Next Gen AI 16-fb0037nr If I were shopping for a cheap laptop I would have given up and bought a Macbook Neo before I found that one.
    - lostmsu 7mo ago
      Sorry about that, here's a link where you can buy one: https://www.staples.com/hp-omnibook-5-16-2k-laptop-copilot-pc-amd-ryzen-ai-7-350-16gb-ram-1tb-ssd-16-75-hours-battery-windows-11-home/product_24631793?cid=EM:ordconfrm::sku& https://www.staples.com/hp-omnibook-5-16-2k-laptop-copilot-p... I have no affiliation with them of any kind
stetrain 7mo ago
It definitely would have competitive issues with 8MB RAM and a 256MB SSD. Knocking it for having a tablet processor means you haven't actually been paying attention to Apple's in-house processor development.

dang 7mo ago

(We've since merged the threads, but the pcmag.com link is in the toptext above)

cromulent 7mo ago
I understand the need to join the conversations about the same topic. Thanks for keeping the URLs separate. Reading Gruber's long form considered article is very different to reading some second hand Asus executive "shock" comments.
GeekyBear 7mo ago
The comment was originally in a thread discussing Engadget's take: > MacBook Neo review: Apple puts every $600 Windows PC to shame https://www.engadget.com/computing/laptops/macbook-neo-review-apple-puts-every-600-windows-pc-to-shame-130000878.html https://www.engadget.com/computing/laptops/macbook-neo-revie...