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> But they are not doing enough to protect children from predators and that's a huge legal and regulatory risk. It's first and foremost a huge risk for kids.

> But they are not doing enough to protect children from predators and that's a huge legal and regulatory risk. It's first and foremost a huge risk for kids. My solution is simple: my daughter (11 y/o) can play Roblox but she must be in a game with another friend (whom I know and whom I know her parents) and she must on a video/conf-call with that friend, using another device, while she plays Roblox. That way I hear everything they're saying. And they're ecstatic and having lots of fun. I check the chat once in a while: the rule is "not hiding the chat when parents look or no more Roblox". Keeps her mostly at bay from predators.

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Incipient 7mo ago
I feel like for a 11yo, you can't even explain the risks. Not just for lack of true comprehension, but also just kids shouldn't have to worry about that stuff, and just be kids.
- sanswork 7mo ago
  My son has had the local police do a presentation to his class/preschool/daycares about online safety every year since he was 4 so it's pretty drilled in by this point.
- Aeolun 7mo ago
  Wut? If they’re using the internet they should be aware of that stuff. That’s what ‘just be kids’ means these days. Just being a kid isn’t a static state of being.
  - kulahan 7mo ago
    It's no longer safe for children to be unsupervised on the internet.
    - Aeolun 7mo ago
      It’s perfectly safe for them to be unsupervised on the internet for stretches of time.
  - dyauspitr 7mo ago
    So then they shouldn’t use the internet. I’m not going to fill my kids mind with all the dangers in the world when all they should be thinking about when they’re 8 is academics, friends and personal pursuits and achievements.
userbinator 7mo ago
Getting them to accept the normalisation of surveillance while they're young? And then people wonder why authoritarianism is on the rise...
- PunchyHamster 7mo ago
  Getting watched by your parents is far different than getting watched by the government. It's no different than parent watching out of the window on kids playing in backyard > And then people wonder why authoritarianism is on the rise... It's on the rise because of utter failure of progressive govt to do what people want them to do. People want country to be more prosperous, not to have bleeding heart activists import immigrants or other leftist bullshit. Authoritarian turn is knee jerk reaction to that beacuse they are only ones promising the country for the citizens of the country. If you want less of that, make left that cares about country's people
  - eloisant 7mo ago
    Still, at some point you do have to give some privacy to your kids. I know the trend is helicopter parenting but it's not helping the kid to be overprotecting.
    - Ferret7446 7mo ago
      I don't think privacy and helicoptering is a dichotomy. Hell, the concept of privacy is actually very recent, and the default state for protohumans is no privacy (can't hide anything when everyone is in the same cave/hut) I'm not saying kids should have no privacy, but I think privacy is overrated and the real problem is parents being overly controlling
  - microtonal 7mo ago
    Getting watched by your parents is far different than getting watched by the government. It's no different than parent watching out of the window on kids playing in backyard Maybe it's a cultural difference, but after age ~8-9 or so, we would just roam around our town/village without our parents knowing where we were. You just had to be back home at 17:30 for dinner. Yes, there was some mischief (we were kids), but you had to own up to it if you got caught and there weren't smartphone cameras around everywhere, so if you did something dumb, it would not be on the internet the next day. The problem with modern games and social media is that they are like giving crack to a 10 year-old. They are made for dopamine hits that leads to addiction. Kid's brains are not fully developed until well after 18, so they have limited capability to recognize and deal with addiction. People want country to be more prosperous, not to have bleeding heart activists import immigrants or other leftist bullshit. Authoritarian turn is knee jerk reaction to that beacuse they are only ones promising the country for the citizens of the country. Oh my...
dyauspitr 7mo ago
This is ridiculous. She 11, take the damn tablet away from her.

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Incipient 7mo ago

I feel like for a 11yo, you can't even explain the risks. Not just for lack of true comprehension, but also just kids shouldn't have to worry about that stuff, and just be kids.

sanswork 7mo ago
My son has had the local police do a presentation to his class/preschool/daycares about online safety every year since he was 4 so it's pretty drilled in by this point.
Aeolun 7mo ago
Wut? If they’re using the internet they should be aware of that stuff. That’s what ‘just be kids’ means these days. Just being a kid isn’t a static state of being.
- kulahan 7mo ago
  It's no longer safe for children to be unsupervised on the internet.
  - Aeolun 7mo ago
    It’s perfectly safe for them to be unsupervised on the internet for stretches of time.
- dyauspitr 7mo ago
  So then they shouldn’t use the internet. I’m not going to fill my kids mind with all the dangers in the world when all they should be thinking about when they’re 8 is academics, friends and personal pursuits and achievements.

userbinator 7mo ago

Getting them to accept the normalisation of surveillance while they're young? And then people wonder why authoritarianism is on the rise...

PunchyHamster 7mo ago
Getting watched by your parents is far different than getting watched by the government. It's no different than parent watching out of the window on kids playing in backyard > And then people wonder why authoritarianism is on the rise... It's on the rise because of utter failure of progressive govt to do what people want them to do. People want country to be more prosperous, not to have bleeding heart activists import immigrants or other leftist bullshit. Authoritarian turn is knee jerk reaction to that beacuse they are only ones promising the country for the citizens of the country. If you want less of that, make left that cares about country's people
- eloisant 7mo ago
  Still, at some point you do have to give some privacy to your kids. I know the trend is helicopter parenting but it's not helping the kid to be overprotecting.
  - Ferret7446 7mo ago
    I don't think privacy and helicoptering is a dichotomy. Hell, the concept of privacy is actually very recent, and the default state for protohumans is no privacy (can't hide anything when everyone is in the same cave/hut) I'm not saying kids should have no privacy, but I think privacy is overrated and the real problem is parents being overly controlling
- microtonal 7mo ago
  Getting watched by your parents is far different than getting watched by the government. It's no different than parent watching out of the window on kids playing in backyard Maybe it's a cultural difference, but after age ~8-9 or so, we would just roam around our town/village without our parents knowing where we were. You just had to be back home at 17:30 for dinner. Yes, there was some mischief (we were kids), but you had to own up to it if you got caught and there weren't smartphone cameras around everywhere, so if you did something dumb, it would not be on the internet the next day. The problem with modern games and social media is that they are like giving crack to a 10 year-old. They are made for dopamine hits that leads to addiction. Kid's brains are not fully developed until well after 18, so they have limited capability to recognize and deal with addiction. People want country to be more prosperous, not to have bleeding heart activists import immigrants or other leftist bullshit. Authoritarian turn is knee jerk reaction to that beacuse they are only ones promising the country for the citizens of the country. Oh my...

dyauspitr 7mo ago

This is ridiculous. She 11, take the damn tablet away from her.