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This feels like one of those "done for backwards compatibility and we tested not doing it and it was worse" things where everyone assumes incompetence over good

This feels like one of those "done for backwards compatibility and we tested not doing it and it was worse" things where everyone assumes incompetence over good-faith trade-offs being driven by release schedules.

iknowstuff 7mo ago
Did the radius need changing
- afandian 7mo ago
  Something needed changing! And the radius was something!
  - duskdozer 7mo ago
    What if they randomized the radius on every launch? A fresh, modern experience every time!
    - afandian 7mo ago
      Make it “on every corner” and we have a deal. (EDIT - and Gemini could create a plausible explanation post-hoc each time)
      - agos 7mo ago
        different radius on every corner and we're back in the winamp skin era, not bad!
    - egorfine 7mo ago
      Don't give them ideas
- etchalon 7mo ago
  Does any new design ever need to be done?
jeroenhd 7mo ago
It's by design. This isn't a bug or a skipped test case. https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2025/310/?time=442 https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2025/310/?time=4... > Each element is designed with a curvature that sits neatly within the corner radius of its container, in this case the window itself. And this relationship goes both ways. In the new design system, windows now have a softer, more generous corner radius, which varies based on the style of window. Windows with toolbars now use a larger radius, which is designed to wrap concentrically around the glass toolbar elements, scaling to match the size of the toolbar. Titlebar-only windows retain a smaller corner radius, wrapping compactly around the window controls. These larger corners provide a softer feel and elegant concentricity to the window but they can also clip content that sits close to the edge of the window.
- troupo 7mo ago
  Design for the sake of design. That entire paragraph reads like a post-hoc justification for a design decision they never thought through
- 1718627440 7mo ago
  This quote still fits the story, that they tried a consistent radius first, found that it looks ugly for either with or without toolbars and then implemented the current solution.

iknowstuff 7mo ago

Did the radius need changing

afandian 7mo ago
Something needed changing! And the radius was something!
- duskdozer 7mo ago
  What if they randomized the radius on every launch? A fresh, modern experience every time!
  - afandian 7mo ago
    Make it “on every corner” and we have a deal. (EDIT - and Gemini could create a plausible explanation post-hoc each time)
    - agos 7mo ago
      different radius on every corner and we're back in the winamp skin era, not bad!
  - egorfine 7mo ago
    Don't give them ideas
etchalon 7mo ago
Does any new design ever need to be done?

jeroenhd 7mo ago

It's by design. This isn't a bug or a skipped test case. https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2025/310/?time=442 https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2025/310/?time=4... > Each element is designed with a curvature that sits neatly within the corner radius of its container, in this case the window itself. And this relationship goes both ways. In the new design system, windows now have a softer, more generous corner radius, which varies based on the style of window. Windows with toolbars now use a larger radius, which is designed to wrap concentrically around the glass toolbar elements, scaling to match the size of the toolbar. Titlebar-only windows retain a smaller corner radius, wrapping compactly around the window controls. These larger corners provide a softer feel and elegant concentricity to the window but they can also clip content that sits close to the edge of the window.

troupo 7mo ago
Design for the sake of design. That entire paragraph reads like a post-hoc justification for a design decision they never thought through
1718627440 7mo ago
This quote still fits the story, that they tried a consistent radius first, found that it looks ugly for either with or without toolbars and then implemented the current solution.