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The sooner we get to true lab grown meat the better Meat is nice but would be better if we can skip the whole suffering thing
by Havoc 8mo ago
The sooner we get to true lab grown meat the better
Meat is nice but would be better if we can skip the whole suffering thing
- okokwhatever 8mo agoI'll be pleased to let you eat that for me.
- Havoc 8mo agoI mean if it’s functionally identical then I would. Not super interested in pink slime style concoctions either
- globular-toast 8mo agoIt's not even nice. People ate meat because fresh fruit and vegetables weren't available all year round or even at all. All good food has plants to make it taste nice. You can easily just skip the meat and go straight for the flavour.
- snowe2010 8mo agoYour comment makes no sense. If plants weren’t around for humans to eat then how did the animals humans eat survive? Humans eat animals because they are a denser faster nutrition than plants. More bang for your buck. Trying to act like humans “only eat animals because” is ignoring reality.
- pmarreck 8mo agoThe Alaskan word for "vegetables" is literally "boring food"
- givemeethekeys 8mo agoDo you live in Alaska?
- dehrmann 8mo agoIn Swedish, it's "green things."
- globular-toast 8mo agoMmm yeah, Alaska being well known for culinary excellence, of course.
- anonym29 8mo agoYeah, I hate being stuck with a luscious rare filet mignon basked in clarified butter, it's so flavorless that I have to chase it with celery, cucumbers, and lettuce just to stomach it... /s
- globular-toast 8mo agoAnything tastes good in butter. Try some okra or cabbage if you're ready for some flavour.
- anonym29 8mo agoKeep in mind, there are more people who have a medical necessity to avoid cruciferous vegetables (like cabbage), gluten, nuts, and other types of plants than there are people who have a medical necessity to avoid meat. As a whole, more humans are medically biologically incompatible with plant consumption than animal consumption. Note that I'm talking about adverse medical reactions that range from worsening of chronic disease to acute death, not merely gastric discomfort, like with lactose intolerance. Not everyone has the privilege of enjoying buttered cabbage.
- khazhoux 8mo agoAnything tastes good in butter, but especially steak!
- noosphr 8mo agoLab grown mean doesn't work. But debrained animals are certainly more plausible. You just need a miminum interface to keep their bodies running. Cruelty free meat.
- sosodev 8mo agoThis is a false dichotomy. The choice is not lab grown or suffering. Farmed animals could live happy, healthy lives and then be culled in a humane way. The problem is that it costs slightly more and our society is more concerned with cost than animal suffering.
- hshdhdhj4444 8mo agoWhat’s the humane way you would like to be culled?
- red-iron-pine 8mo agothe direction we're headed is grenade-on-drone that YT video about killbots is being proved right in Eastern Ukraine right now only a matter of time 'till those metaphorical chickens come home to roost
- block_dagger 8mo agoAny kind of domination of one species over another raises serious ethical questions. Avoiding suffering on the dominated side is nearly impossible.
- sosodev 8mo agoAre all pets suffering?
- diacritical 8mo agoI think what GP meant is that when it involves money, suffering is nearly impossible to prevent. That's why you have puppy mills, for example. Most people don't know how the puppies are raised, they just see the cute puppy in the shop. The same way people see a pretty piece of meat in the supermarket and don't know its history. Raising animals for meat is theoretically doable with no suffering (not sure about milk), but it's not happening in practice. With pets the situation is better - a lot of people adopt and some care about how their pet was raised if they buy it from a breeder.
- dehrmann 8mo agoI actually had some this weekend. If you support this, visit one of the handful of restaurants selling it to show interest and support the companies. The salmon I had was ready for prime time in the right context, and if you didn't know, you probably wouldn't have noticed.
- delecti 8mo agoI'm surprised to hear that it works with fish in particular. I wouldn't have thought it could replicate the flakiness of real fish. That's great to hear honestly. I'd assumed it would mostly be limited to cultured ground beef and chicken nuggets.
- dehrmann 8mo ago> flakiness of real fish It was in sushi. They're halfway cheating because it's not cooked, but getting the look right is very impressive compared to ground meat.
- hackable_sand 8mo agoWhat a weird compromise.
- pmarreck 8mo agoIn nature, animals are routinely torn apart and devoured while still breathing. In a proper rending facility, a captive bolt pneumatic/hydraulic pistol punctures their skull and sends a shockwave through their brains, killing them like Tony in the last scene of the Sopranos.
- filoeleven 8mo agoAnd those "proper rendering facilities" don't exist in reality. This is why ag-gag laws exist.
- JungleGymSam 8mo agowhat a disgusting idea.
- clickety_clack 8mo agoAt least the thing with live animals is that they have to be kept within some kind of parameters to survive, with those parameters hopefully also leading to some level of food standards for us. I can’t even conceive of the kind of chemicals and processes that would be required to keep random meat-like cells alive without the rest of the body.
- flowerbreeze 8mo agoI think not so long from now the exotic meal experience for the young ones will be real grilled chicken that looks like a chicken. Like zebra or crocodile meat was for us northerners. From my own little box I think that that if lab grown meat was available and affordable, I would never eat a bit of real chicken, pork or beef again. I know veganism is an option too, but... I grew up with meat and it's very difficult to give up.
- aziaziazi 8mo agoHave you tried tempeh? It solves 95% of my chicken craving since I found the right recipe and spices. It's also cheaper, nutritious, faster to cook and almost no processed. https://tempeh.info/ https://tempeh.info/
- znpy 8mo agoLab meat is essentially proprietary food. I hope that never takes off. I’m not eating that shit for sure.
- whycome 8mo agoSometimes people look back on slavery as an institution and wonder "how did they ever do that?" But the thing is, it was so ingrained economically and culturally. In a hundred years (or less?) we will look back on meat from tortured animals with similar incredulity. The abolitionist movement coincided with the industrial revolution. Maybe accessible meat replacements will have the same result.
- nebula8804 8mo agoThe ship may have sailed for a lot of consumers. This along with EVs are one of those things that people try once and if they don't like it they won't try again. Probably helps to explain why all the stocks of these companies were riding high for quite a while but then collapsed. How do you rebrand after people have already associated your product with past failed incumbents?
- hshdhdhj4444 8mo agoWhat are the failed cultivated meats that people have tried?
- doctorwho42 8mo agoI think they think beyond meat (et. Al) are vat meat.
- nebula8804 8mo agoMy point was that consumers won't see the difference at this point.
- wktmeow 8mo agoIn the mean time you could stop eating it
- hulitu 8mo ago> The sooner we get to true lab grown meat the better lab grown meat is cancer. Good luck eating that.