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The benefit is the product. If the TOS is onerous, you can not use the product.
by parineum 8mo ago
The benefit is the product. If the TOS is onerous, you can not use the product.
- mox1 8mo agoWhat happens when Ford updates the ToS on my vehicle (via an OTA update) and I cannot see the backup camera until I "accept"? (Insert about 1000 other examples of very awkward ToS updates)
- rootusrootus 8mo agoYou refuse the update and continue using the car with the features you paid for. The ToS agreement comes before the update, not after.
- abighamb 8mo agoOften I see a popup to accept TOS after the update, which was run without me agreeing to anything. At which time the company has unilaterally denied my access to something I already paid for without seeking my affirmative consent. In theory I could stop whatever I'm doing, go email the company a brief to the point letter indicating they've broken their ToS and are unacceptably impairing my ability to use my property under the contract that I did agree to, and giving them an opportunity to amend their problem and give me a rollback path. Realistically the outcome of this is a brushoff and needing to file a consumer protection complaint or get a lawyer. If the feature is something like "my car" I can't afford that opportunity cost and am coerced into accepting their contract by the way they presented the amended terms.
- fc417fc802 8mo agoI figure ToS for physical devices should be blanket outlawed. They're fraught enough for purely online services. Physical devices keep all of that baggage then add additional questions about whether or not I own physical objects that I purchased.
- throwaway27448 8mo agoGood luck with that, buddy. Let's see what kind of shithole society you build with this sort of worldview
- gopher_space 8mo agoSo just endless account churn?