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Seems like restricting posts but not comments from a fresh account would thread that needle pretty well?

by Uvix 7mo ago

ThrowawayR2 7mo ago
If that were to happen, I'd also suggest that comments from fresh accounts should also have URLs deleted or disabled.
- Barbing 7mo ago
  Even something like… Example[.]com But don’t worry, HN has been thoughtful about links from new accounts for months and months (can’t speak for longer, but maybe/probably). Effort could well be duplicative unless I’m unaware of some more granular detail.
johnnyanmac 7mo ago
I'm surprised posts aren't restricted a bit more. Maybe that's just my old school "lurk moar" mentality, but I feel like I really need to understand the vibes of a community before I start to contribute posts to it.
- Barbing 7mo ago
  True Mm, balancing against “long-time lurker, made an account just to post this”…
  - AnimalMuppet 7mo ago
    Yeah, exactly. Thirteen years ago, I was a lurker. No account, because why would I make an account just to read? But when I wanted to say something badly enough, I made an account. (I think the first thing I did is post an Ask HN about functional programming, so "no posting for X time" might have turned me away.)
SoftTalker 7mo ago
I'd suggest: new accounts are read-only for at least a week. Then they can comment (rate limited at first, gradually relaxed) and vote, and then after some additional amount of time and/or karma they can submit a post. Maybe some of these mechanisms are already in place? Bots can probably game this too but drive-by bots maybe won't be patient enough.
- huddert 7mo ago
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- Barbing 7mo ago
  Immediate comment privileges are really important. Lots of examples, but to give a silly one, someone pastes their clipboard without realizing it includes their API key or their email. Good Samaritans should be able to say, "Hey, I just caught something." And, as another commenter mentions, if someone shares your work, you should be able to comment on that thread without delay.
  - VorpalWay 7mo ago
    This is the only reason I got myself a HN account: someone posted a link to a blog post of mine, and I happened to see the increased traffic on my VPS. (And I stuck around after, a few posts are interesting enough. All the AI stuff isn't, and there is too much of that unfortunately.)
  - 3form 7mo ago
    You reminded me how infuriating it was not to be able to post comments on StackOverflow. Felt like getting those few upvotes required was taking forever, and all without ability to ask for clarification.
    - Barbing 7mo ago
      Goodness that is rough, then they instantly own your posts where blanking edits are vandalism (obviously great for the internet, albeit at potential occasional individual cost).

Seems like restricting posts but not comments from a fresh account would thread that needle pretty well?

by Uvix 7mo ago

Seems like restricting posts but not comments from a fresh account would thread that needle pretty well?

ThrowawayR2 7mo ago

If that were to happen, I'd also suggest that comments from fresh accounts should also have URLs deleted or disabled.

Barbing 7mo ago
Even something like… Example[.]com But don’t worry, HN has been thoughtful about links from new accounts for months and months (can’t speak for longer, but maybe/probably). Effort could well be duplicative unless I’m unaware of some more granular detail.

johnnyanmac 7mo ago

I'm surprised posts aren't restricted a bit more. Maybe that's just my old school "lurk moar" mentality, but I feel like I really need to understand the vibes of a community before I start to contribute posts to it.

Barbing 7mo ago
True Mm, balancing against “long-time lurker, made an account just to post this”…
- AnimalMuppet 7mo ago
  Yeah, exactly. Thirteen years ago, I was a lurker. No account, because why would I make an account just to read? But when I wanted to say something badly enough, I made an account. (I think the first thing I did is post an Ask HN about functional programming, so "no posting for X time" might have turned me away.)

SoftTalker 7mo ago

I'd suggest: new accounts are read-only for at least a week. Then they can comment (rate limited at first, gradually relaxed) and vote, and then after some additional amount of time and/or karma they can submit a post. Maybe some of these mechanisms are already in place? Bots can probably game this too but drive-by bots maybe won't be patient enough.

huddert 7mo ago
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Barbing 7mo ago
Immediate comment privileges are really important. Lots of examples, but to give a silly one, someone pastes their clipboard without realizing it includes their API key or their email. Good Samaritans should be able to say, "Hey, I just caught something." And, as another commenter mentions, if someone shares your work, you should be able to comment on that thread without delay.
- VorpalWay 7mo ago
  This is the only reason I got myself a HN account: someone posted a link to a blog post of mine, and I happened to see the increased traffic on my VPS. (And I stuck around after, a few posts are interesting enough. All the AI stuff isn't, and there is too much of that unfortunately.)
- 3form 7mo ago
  You reminded me how infuriating it was not to be able to post comments on StackOverflow. Felt like getting those few upvotes required was taking forever, and all without ability to ask for clarification.
  - Barbing 7mo ago
    Goodness that is rough, then they instantly own your posts where blanking edits are vandalism (obviously great for the internet, albeit at potential occasional individual cost).