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Inventory is tight too, if you look at delivery/shipping times for Mac Studio and Mac Mini, I'm seeing April/May

by marcuskaz 7mo ago

kmfrk 7mo ago
A lot of people also got into buying Macs for OpenClaw, so demand is probably up as well.
- copperx 7mo ago
  What's the deal with the Mac Mini and Openclaw? a vps is a better alternative. is it because iMessage?
  - andai 7mo ago
    You do actually need to run it on a Mac, if (and only if!) you require integration with Mac-only software. But the main factor is probably just "all the cool kids are doing it" ;)
  - kube-system 7mo ago
    iMessage… and safari. Browsing the web from a headless vps has hurdles.
    - Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
      > safari. Browsing the web from a headless vps has hurdles Hooking things up to puppeteer maybe? You can use pupeteer to then use the chromium control remote (debug?) option iirc which uses websockets underneath the hood Then you can connect this from your pc or theoretically any Control server. Surprised to not hear much work on that front now that you mention it.
      - kube-system 7mo ago
        The CDP debugger is easily detectable client side and many websites will flag your traffic as undesirable
        Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
        I didn't know that, Sorry about that, but is there no way to make CDP debugger less detectable. Seems doable to me but maybe there's a catch if its not already done by somebody maybe?
        cute_boi 7mo ago
        there is so many way to make it undetectable, but it is cat and mouse game.
  - teaearlgraycold 7mo ago
    iMessage is the only explanation I can find. Minis aren’t powerful enough for agentic models unless you’re getting a rather expensive version (I could see the MX Pro w/ 64GB working). At which point they don’t have the price appeal of the base model anymore.
- andai 7mo ago
  Yeah on the discord you see a lot of people asking about how much RAM they need to run local models. There seems to be a lot of demand for it.
- root_axis 7mo ago
  I am not convinced there are that many people actually buying macs for OpenClaw.
nickthegreek 7mo ago
i just walked into a microcenter yesterday where not only did they have a huge stock of mac mini, they are all advertised 15% off and runs openclaw.
- bombcar 7mo ago
  https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?fq=category:Desktop+Computers|106,Subcategory:Apple+Desktops,Series:iMac+OR+Mac+mini+OR+Mac+Studio https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?fq=ca... it's even mentioned on each one online

Inventory is tight too, if you look at delivery/shipping times for Mac Studio and Mac Mini, I'm seeing April/May

kmfrk 7mo ago

A lot of people also got into buying Macs for OpenClaw, so demand is probably up as well.

copperx 7mo ago
What's the deal with the Mac Mini and Openclaw? a vps is a better alternative. is it because iMessage?
- andai 7mo ago
  You do actually need to run it on a Mac, if (and only if!) you require integration with Mac-only software. But the main factor is probably just "all the cool kids are doing it" ;)
- kube-system 7mo ago
  iMessage… and safari. Browsing the web from a headless vps has hurdles.
  - Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
    > safari. Browsing the web from a headless vps has hurdles Hooking things up to puppeteer maybe? You can use pupeteer to then use the chromium control remote (debug?) option iirc which uses websockets underneath the hood Then you can connect this from your pc or theoretically any Control server. Surprised to not hear much work on that front now that you mention it.
    - kube-system 7mo ago
      The CDP debugger is easily detectable client side and many websites will flag your traffic as undesirable
      - Imustaskforhelp 7mo ago
        I didn't know that, Sorry about that, but is there no way to make CDP debugger less detectable. Seems doable to me but maybe there's a catch if its not already done by somebody maybe?
        cute_boi 7mo ago
        there is so many way to make it undetectable, but it is cat and mouse game.
- teaearlgraycold 7mo ago
  iMessage is the only explanation I can find. Minis aren’t powerful enough for agentic models unless you’re getting a rather expensive version (I could see the MX Pro w/ 64GB working). At which point they don’t have the price appeal of the base model anymore.
andai 7mo ago
Yeah on the discord you see a lot of people asking about how much RAM they need to run local models. There seems to be a lot of demand for it.
root_axis 7mo ago
I am not convinced there are that many people actually buying macs for OpenClaw.

nickthegreek 7mo ago

i just walked into a microcenter yesterday where not only did they have a huge stock of mac mini, they are all advertised 15% off and runs openclaw.

bombcar 7mo ago
https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?fq=category:Desktop+Computers|106,Subcategory:Apple+Desktops,Series:iMac+OR+Mac+mini+OR+Mac+Studio https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?fq=ca... it's even mentioned on each one online