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Good Bad ISPs
- observationist 8mo agoIf you have trouble accessing the site: https://archive.is/MbT8n https://archive.is/MbT8n
- JaggedJax 8mo agoI would recommend the Wayback machine archive instead: https://web.archive.org/web/20260306172113/https://community.torproject.org/relay/community-resources/good-bad-isps/ https://web.archive.org/web/20260306172113/https://community... Given that archive.is is known to DDOS and alter archives (See all the recent HN posts about them)
- observationist 8mo agoI'm perfectly happy to continue using archive.is for so long as it remains functional.
- Cider9986 8mo agoI support the owner of archive.today. He has created one of the most valuable services on the internet to protect freedom of information.
- anonym29 8mo agoarchive.org outright removes large numbers of pages, including political content; archive.is has edited a handful of pages to redact the doxxing of the archive.is owners.
- observationist 8mo agoThe editing they do in self preservation is understandable, and far less wrong than having to kowtow to political pressure and private influence; archive.org is great, but unreliable in ways that archive.is et al are not. They're both very useful, in complementary ways. I even think what archive.is did to their detractor was understandable - in poor taste, definitely black hat, don't do stuff like that, immature as hell, but hey, I get the human impulse that led to the bad decision, and I'm not gonna base whether I use the site or not on that.
- 8cvor6j844qw_d6 8mo agoTrue. archive.org complies with removal requests from site owners [1]. The problem is that the content most worth preserving is exactly the content people try hardest to get taken down. If archive.is goes down, and between the FBI subpoena and the Wikipedia ban the pressure is real, archive.org becomes the de facto monopoly in web archival. A monopoly that honors takedown requests is not a reliable record of history. [1]: https://help.archive.org/help/how-do-i-request-to-remove-something-from-archive-org/ https://help.archive.org/help/how-do-i-request-to-remove-som...
- Akronymus 8mo agoalso, archive.org only verifies the current owner of the domain for takedowns. So if a site was hosting content, that content was archived the site then shut down and someone else acquired the domain, the new owner could request the removal of the old content.
- JaggedJax 8mo agoThe turfing with this topic is strong and needs to be called out. Reliable sources are crucial now more than ever. We cannot tolerate and promote botnets once they are uncovered.
- gzread 8mo agoThe life of the owner of archive.is is directly threatened by the people they are ineffectively attacking back, so I'm not sure I can really blame them.
- Dylan16807 8mo agoWasn't the information in that post pretty easy to get? No, I don't call that a direct threat.
- cncnfnfn 8mo agoWho said anything about blame? You can blame whoever you want. The concern is that he’s shown he’s not a trustworthy archivist.
- uyzstvqs 8mo agoOr: http://xmrhfasfg5suueegrnc4gsgyi2tyclcy5oz7f5drnrodmdtob6t2ioyd.onion/relay/community-resources/good-bad-isps/index.html http://xmrhfasfg5suueegrnc4gsgyi2tyclcy5oz7f5drnrodmdtob6t2i...
- CableNinja 8mo agoWhat the fuck is this url
- binaryturtle 8mo ago.onion, aka a TOR internal URL. They look like this.
- halJordan 8mo agoAnd onion urls are a sha hash of i think the private key of the site
- gzread 8mo agoThey contain the full key now which is why they are longer. Apparently it was necessary to fix the vulnerabilities in the previous version. Public key obviously, not private.
- vaylian 8mo agoDocumentation: https://support.torproject.org/about-tor/onion-services/what-is-a-dot-onion/ https://support.torproject.org/about-tor/onion-services/what... There are also many web sites that provide an onion address in addition to their clearnet address. For example, the BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50150981 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50150981
- bombcar 8mo agoIf I ever get a .onion (everyone should have an onion probably) I'll also register the same domain "dot net, it's dot com" just for the lols.
- cc-d 8mo agothanks for rocking our archive site!
- knowaveragejoe 8mo agoI see Comcast but no Verizon?
- TZubiri 8mo agoIf you are on the other team, this is also a good list if you want to avoid bad neighbors. Hosts that don't ban tor nodes probably don't have a great reputation.
- petcat 8mo agoNot to mention, why on earth would I ever operate a TOR relay or exit node on my home internet connection? Maybe if I could guarantee that it could only be used by journalists or political dissidents, but everything else? No. I don't need the authorities at my door every few weeks wondering why some of the most deplorable internet traffic of all time is coming from my house.
- blfr 8mo agoRelay nodes don't pose much risk and help mask/blend your own Tor traffic.
- giantg2 8mo agoYeah, I've run a relay node without issues for a couple years.
- ssl-3 8mo agoI agree with the concept. I should not be liable for the actions of others. If someone does something nefarious using my exit node (or the free wifi at my coffee shop) then that shouldn't be my responsibility. After all, I have no way of knowing what they're up to. It may be good or it may be bad; I can't know. (I suppose I can set up a router to discard packets with the RFC 3514 evil bit set, as a show of good faith, but...) So I think the risk should be low, but that's just, like, my opinion, man. My opinion doesn't mean that the risk is in fact low. Has the risk of running an exit node ever been tested in court? Many people, myself included, simply can't afford to have that kind of experience even if we're reasonably sure that it will end up OK.
- ikmckenz 8mo ago
- kittikitti 8mo agoThank you for sharing this, I was previously unaware of this table. While I don't plan on running a Tor node on any VPS or residential ISP, an option to do so signals that they value their customers. I will cross reference this table when picking out my next VPS at the very least.
- ouk 8mo agoInfomaniak is listed in the France section but it's a swiss company.
- xattt 8mo agoThere is an 18-year-old record (updated in 2008!) about TekSavvy in Canada. The internet was different place back then. This info wouldn’t even relevant anymore as TekSavvy has since taken a business-centric approach in the interest of survival. This list is fluffed up, without any checking for veracity. GIGO type of situation.
- lasgawe 8mo agoThis does not include some major ISPs.
- heraldgeezer 8mo agoYes looking at the Swedish list, these are just hosters, not ISPs... ISP list with subscriber numbers, keep in mind we are 10million people. Telia Fixed: ~1.4M | Mobile: ~6.1M The incumbent; largest fiber footprint and dominant mobile share. Tele2 Fixed: ~900k | Mobile: ~3.8M Major player in both segments; owns Com Hem (cable/fiber assets). Telenor Fixed: ~700k | Mobile: ~2.9M Strong competitor, shares mobile infra with Tele2 via Net4Mobility. 3 (Tre) Mobile: ~2.5M Focused almost exclusively on mobile and Fixed Wireless Access (FWA). Bahnhof Fixed: ~450k Popular "challenger" ISP known for privacy advocacy and open fiber networks. Bredband2 Fixed: ~430k High-volume provider on municipal networks (Stadsnät).