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People say things like "don't expect to do hardcore content creation on these" (Ars Technica) We used to do hardcore content creation on Intel processors and s

People say things like "don't expect to do hardcore content creation on these" (Ars Technica) We used to do hardcore content creation on Intel processors and spinning hard drives that were way shittier. Heck even my M1 still 100% suffices for everything I wanna do.

UqWBcuFx6NV4r 7mo ago
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- kotaKat 7mo ago
  Meanwhile I guarantee sitting on a university campus I’m going to see a sea of these colours sitting on desks and tables by people putting in some serious work. In this age of price hikes on components and hardware, this is Apple’s “price heard around the world” like they were on stage at E3 in 1995.[1] Ironically they pulled it off with Sony’s worst price at an announcement… five hundred and ninety-nine US dollars. [1] https://youtu.be/ExaAYIKsDBI https://youtu.be/ExaAYIKsDBI
xnx 7mo ago
Very true, but content creation used to mean 720i. Doing high quality compression of 4K with the latest codecs is still a beast.
- throwaway27448 7mo ago
  Content creation also used to mean writing novels by hand and stitching pixel art. You can do basically anything imaginable before 2010 in terms of creation (which is... basically anything worth mentioning?) before running into video as the bottleneck. Probably closer to 2020.
- whizzter 7mo ago
  I bought an 16e last week with the same chipset, just tested and it handles realtime recording of 4k at 60fps with HEVC (camera is "48mp" so the source is 8k camera source material). Pretty sure most of the encoding/decoding of video is handled with special circuits these days. Now, add enough layers and it'll probably falter, but with dedicated encoding/decoding circuits combined with a modern GPU it will definetly be a usable experience with some lower res quick pre-renders at worst but probably realtime for most content creator usages.
- joefourier 7mo ago
  The first professional commercial 4K camera came out over 23 years ago, and the first smartphones and camcorders capable of 4K video were back in 2013. The Macbook Neo has a 2.5x higher multi-core Geekbench score compared to the i7-4960X's, the top consumer CPU of 2013 (which could handle 4K video editing in h264), and its single-core performance is 5x higher. Plus, I'm 99% sure the MacBook Neo has a dedicated video decoding ASIC anyway.
huxley 7mo ago
Haha. I edited tv shows back in the very early days of digital non-linear editing on a Mac Quadra 840AV with 80MB of RAM and 40/80MHz 68040 processor and a RAID made up of 4 x 9GB SCSI drives, with a coprocessor board that people wouldn’t consider sufficient for editing gifs with now. We did After Effects rendering with similar gear … my first job was restarting after effects after it would crash part way through a render (go back a few frames and start again).
joe_mamba 7mo ago
>We used to do hardcore content creation on Intel processors and spinning hard drives that were way shittier. We also used to work fields with our backs and hands, but that doesn't mean we should still do that today when John Deere exists. I also did my engineering masters on a core 2 duo with 2 GB of RAM, but if I had money i would have definitely preferred something a lot better like an i7 with 8gb of RAM so I wouldn't be constantly hitting the spinning rust SWAP. My point is, this shouldn't turn into a competition on who suffered the most, doing the most amount of labor with the shittiest possible potato PC, like its happening in the comments right now, as none of these anecdotes proves powerful modern computers aren't useful today.

UqWBcuFx6NV4r 7mo ago

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kotaKat 7mo ago
Meanwhile I guarantee sitting on a university campus I’m going to see a sea of these colours sitting on desks and tables by people putting in some serious work. In this age of price hikes on components and hardware, this is Apple’s “price heard around the world” like they were on stage at E3 in 1995.[1] Ironically they pulled it off with Sony’s worst price at an announcement… five hundred and ninety-nine US dollars. [1] https://youtu.be/ExaAYIKsDBI https://youtu.be/ExaAYIKsDBI

xnx 7mo ago

Very true, but content creation used to mean 720i. Doing high quality compression of 4K with the latest codecs is still a beast.

throwaway27448 7mo ago
Content creation also used to mean writing novels by hand and stitching pixel art. You can do basically anything imaginable before 2010 in terms of creation (which is... basically anything worth mentioning?) before running into video as the bottleneck. Probably closer to 2020.
whizzter 7mo ago
I bought an 16e last week with the same chipset, just tested and it handles realtime recording of 4k at 60fps with HEVC (camera is "48mp" so the source is 8k camera source material). Pretty sure most of the encoding/decoding of video is handled with special circuits these days. Now, add enough layers and it'll probably falter, but with dedicated encoding/decoding circuits combined with a modern GPU it will definetly be a usable experience with some lower res quick pre-renders at worst but probably realtime for most content creator usages.
joefourier 7mo ago
The first professional commercial 4K camera came out over 23 years ago, and the first smartphones and camcorders capable of 4K video were back in 2013. The Macbook Neo has a 2.5x higher multi-core Geekbench score compared to the i7-4960X's, the top consumer CPU of 2013 (which could handle 4K video editing in h264), and its single-core performance is 5x higher. Plus, I'm 99% sure the MacBook Neo has a dedicated video decoding ASIC anyway.

huxley 7mo ago

Haha. I edited tv shows back in the very early days of digital non-linear editing on a Mac Quadra 840AV with 80MB of RAM and 40/80MHz 68040 processor and a RAID made up of 4 x 9GB SCSI drives, with a coprocessor board that people wouldn’t consider sufficient for editing gifs with now. We did After Effects rendering with similar gear … my first job was restarting after effects after it would crash part way through a render (go back a few frames and start again).

joe_mamba 7mo ago

>We used to do hardcore content creation on Intel processors and spinning hard drives that were way shittier. We also used to work fields with our backs and hands, but that doesn't mean we should still do that today when John Deere exists. I also did my engineering masters on a core 2 duo with 2 GB of RAM, but if I had money i would have definitely preferred something a lot better like an i7 with 8gb of RAM so I wouldn't be constantly hitting the spinning rust SWAP. My point is, this shouldn't turn into a competition on who suffered the most, doing the most amount of labor with the shittiest possible potato PC, like its happening in the comments right now, as none of these anecdotes proves powerful modern computers aren't useful today.