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CIA working to arm Kurdish forces to spark uprising in Iran, sources say

aurareturn 8mo ago
Highly relevant: https://youtu.be/jIS2eB-rGv0?si=HOKPKTLSJht_c4yy&t=2074 https://youtu.be/jIS2eB-rGv0?si=HOKPKTLSJht_c4yy&t=2074 too long didn't watch: Iran has a big fresh water supply issue. US and Israel will first target water supplies in upcoming attacks. US and Israel strategy will then switch to dividing Iran's different ethnicities and regions and arm them so they can fight each other for remaining dinimished water supply.
- anovikov 8mo ago
  That looks like a good idea to me. Whatever works i guess, is good enough.
  - Ekaros 8mo ago
    I wonder could we do something like this with USA. Really get them going against each other. Split up all states from each other. And maybe even split the states themselves to be smaller. Then we could exploit the resources there and ship them to rest of the world.
  - jpmoral 8mo ago
    It's a horrible idea that will cause untold death and suffering among the civilian population.
    - anovikov 8mo ago
      Well... the world doesn't need Iran to be anything or do anything. We need it to not be a lot of things though. I don't think we lose anything even if it goes completely to hell as long as it will no longer be a problem for others.
      - actionfromafar 8mo ago
        The only place which worked out somewhat like that is North Korea. I think the risk of chaos spreading from Iran is high.
- jameshilliard 8mo ago
  > US and Israel will first target water supplies in upcoming attacks. This seems highly unlikely. > US and Israel strategy will then switch to dividing Iran's different ethnicities and regions and arm them so they can fight each other for remaining dinimished water supply. I think the strategy will be to unite the different ethnic groups against the regime(which is also the primary cause of the water shortages due to gross negligence when it comes to water management).
  - Computer0 8mo ago
    What evidence do you have that Israel has any interest in a Iran that is functional in any capacity. I feel like we are living in different worlds reading this comment.
    - jameshilliard 8mo ago
      > What evidence do you have that Israel has any interest in a Iran that is functional in any capacity. By far the best outcome here for Israel is for Iran to be a stable and friendly country with a strong central government and normalized relations like they had prior to the revolution in Iran. Just look at the countries surrounding Israel and which ones are causing Israel more security issues, the countries Israel has good relations with are countries like Egypt and Jordan with relatively strong central governments that have a vested interest in preventing regional instability, unstable countries with weak central governments like Lebanon and Syria on the other hand are far more problematic because you then get rouge groups like Hezbollah that cause problems for everyone.
- _DeadFred_ 8mo ago
  This guy is a weirdo who thinks the Jesuit illuminati run the world https://youtu.be/4Ql24Z8SIeE?si=csY0Jl19VYXNouk2&t=860 https://youtu.be/4Ql24Z8SIeE?si=csY0Jl19VYXNouk2&t=860
  - _DeadFred_ 8mo ago
    Old boy is doing a livestream with Sneako right now. WTF? Total weirdo.
actionfromafar 8mo ago
Highly relevant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Iraqi_uprisings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Iraqi_uprisings "Following initial victories, the revolution was held back from continued success by internal divisions as well as a lack of anticipated American [...] support"
DrScientist 8mo ago
Had a Trump representative on the radio literally this morning talking about how Iran fomented chaos around the world. No self awareness in the slightest.
mamonster 8mo ago
This sounds like something that they came up with over the weekend and not a well developed plan. 1. Go look at a topology map of Iran. You don't want to be conducting an offensive operation from Kurdish regions. 2. Other assets/revolutionaries in Iran were heavily repressed a month ago. If this was planned well you would sync them up. 3. USA sat back while Shaaraa strong armed Kurds into submission. Now comes back with Iran promises. 4. Anything involving Kurds, even in Iran, requires Erdogan to be onboard. I don't get the sense he has been paid off and he is likely the next target if Iran is gone.
mothballed 8mo ago
PJAK is a listed terror organization. There is no legal way for CIA to supply them. The fact they claim to be interacting with the KDPI (the civil political organization) is just cover for the fact it is actually PJAK (the militia). Under E.O. 13224, any assets PJAK has under U.S. jurisdiction are frozen, and U.S. persons are prohibited from engaging in any transactions with PJAK.[] [] https://web.archive.org/web/20230829135028/https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/tg14 https://web.archive.org/web/20230829135028/https://home.trea...
- Computer0 8mo ago
  Laws barely apply in the USA at this point.

Highly relevant: https://youtu.be/jIS2eB-rGv0?si=HOKPKTLSJht_c4yy&t=2074 https://youtu.be/jIS2eB-rGv0?si=HOKPKTLSJht_c4yy&t=2074 too long didn't watch: Iran has a big fresh water supply issue. US and Israel will first target water supplies in upcoming attacks. US and Israel strategy will then switch to dividing Iran's different ethnicities and regions and arm them so they can fight each other for remaining dinimished water supply.

anovikov 8mo ago
That looks like a good idea to me. Whatever works i guess, is good enough.
- Ekaros 8mo ago
  I wonder could we do something like this with USA. Really get them going against each other. Split up all states from each other. And maybe even split the states themselves to be smaller. Then we could exploit the resources there and ship them to rest of the world.
- jpmoral 8mo ago
  It's a horrible idea that will cause untold death and suffering among the civilian population.
  - anovikov 8mo ago
    Well... the world doesn't need Iran to be anything or do anything. We need it to not be a lot of things though. I don't think we lose anything even if it goes completely to hell as long as it will no longer be a problem for others.
    - actionfromafar 8mo ago
      The only place which worked out somewhat like that is North Korea. I think the risk of chaos spreading from Iran is high.
jameshilliard 8mo ago
> US and Israel will first target water supplies in upcoming attacks. This seems highly unlikely. > US and Israel strategy will then switch to dividing Iran's different ethnicities and regions and arm them so they can fight each other for remaining dinimished water supply. I think the strategy will be to unite the different ethnic groups against the regime(which is also the primary cause of the water shortages due to gross negligence when it comes to water management).
- Computer0 8mo ago
  What evidence do you have that Israel has any interest in a Iran that is functional in any capacity. I feel like we are living in different worlds reading this comment.
  - jameshilliard 8mo ago
    > What evidence do you have that Israel has any interest in a Iran that is functional in any capacity. By far the best outcome here for Israel is for Iran to be a stable and friendly country with a strong central government and normalized relations like they had prior to the revolution in Iran. Just look at the countries surrounding Israel and which ones are causing Israel more security issues, the countries Israel has good relations with are countries like Egypt and Jordan with relatively strong central governments that have a vested interest in preventing regional instability, unstable countries with weak central governments like Lebanon and Syria on the other hand are far more problematic because you then get rouge groups like Hezbollah that cause problems for everyone.
_DeadFred_ 8mo ago
This guy is a weirdo who thinks the Jesuit illuminati run the world https://youtu.be/4Ql24Z8SIeE?si=csY0Jl19VYXNouk2&t=860 https://youtu.be/4Ql24Z8SIeE?si=csY0Jl19VYXNouk2&t=860
- _DeadFred_ 8mo ago
  Old boy is doing a livestream with Sneako right now. WTF? Total weirdo.

actionfromafar 8mo ago

Highly relevant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Iraqi_uprisings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Iraqi_uprisings "Following initial victories, the revolution was held back from continued success by internal divisions as well as a lack of anticipated American [...] support"

DrScientist 8mo ago

Had a Trump representative on the radio literally this morning talking about how Iran fomented chaos around the world. No self awareness in the slightest.

mamonster 8mo ago

This sounds like something that they came up with over the weekend and not a well developed plan. 1. Go look at a topology map of Iran. You don't want to be conducting an offensive operation from Kurdish regions. 2. Other assets/revolutionaries in Iran were heavily repressed a month ago. If this was planned well you would sync them up. 3. USA sat back while Shaaraa strong armed Kurds into submission. Now comes back with Iran promises. 4. Anything involving Kurds, even in Iran, requires Erdogan to be onboard. I don't get the sense he has been paid off and he is likely the next target if Iran is gone.

mothballed 8mo ago

PJAK is a listed terror organization. There is no legal way for CIA to supply them. The fact they claim to be interacting with the KDPI (the civil political organization) is just cover for the fact it is actually PJAK (the militia). Under E.O. 13224, any assets PJAK has under U.S. jurisdiction are frozen, and U.S. persons are prohibited from engaging in any transactions with PJAK.[] [] https://web.archive.org/web/20230829135028/https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/tg14 https://web.archive.org/web/20230829135028/https://home.trea...

Computer0 8mo ago
Laws barely apply in the USA at this point.