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You claim that the request does not encourage "speeches from George Washington/Lincoln/MLK/Other significant figures". I believe I've provided quotes and source

You claim that the request does not encourage "speeches from George Washington/Lincoln/MLK/Other significant figures". I believe I've provided quotes and sources proving otherwise. I am not here to discuss more generic American politics, I'm here to discuss the main text referenced by the submission -- to wit, the Gizmodo article misrepresents the main text. I'm defending that (fairly narrow) claim.

ImPostingOnHN 8mo ago
> I am not here to discuss more generic American politics This entire submission is about generic American politics. If you don't want to comment on this submission and participate in discussions about it, that's okay, but I think folks are confused by your insistence on discussing generic American politics (this submission) while omitting other generic American politics about the very same topic (the context of this submission). If you want to discuss a thing, you should be okay with thinking and talking about the critical context around that thing. As an engineer, I'm sure you can understand.
- pinkmuffinere 8mo ago
  I guess I am interesting in discussing the much narrower question. And I can see you are not yet sick of replying to me :P, so I'd like to ask your view ImPostingOnHN -- do you feel that the text of Carr's request seems on-net good? If not, what is it in the text that you object to? To be clear, I actually do find one line objectionable (and maybe you'll show me others). He calls on broadcasters to air "patriotic, pro-America content". I feel 'patriotic' is just on the line of making me uncomfortable, and 'pro-America' slightly crosses over it. I think the right to criticize the powers-that-be is quintessentially American, and asking for explicit pro-America content betrays that. But I can also see ways that both of these could be interpreted in a positive-for-humanity way, even though they don't naturally jump out to me in that way.
  - ImPostingOnHN 8mo ago
    There's really no good reason for me (or you) to exclude critical context from the announcement, given that they're both "generic American politics". Plenty of bad reasons though. If you want to discuss "generic American politics", however, I have some questions already posed to you earlier which you thusfar have ignored because they were "generic American politics".

ImPostingOnHN 8mo ago

> I am not here to discuss more generic American politics This entire submission is about generic American politics. If you don't want to comment on this submission and participate in discussions about it, that's okay, but I think folks are confused by your insistence on discussing generic American politics (this submission) while omitting other generic American politics about the very same topic (the context of this submission). If you want to discuss a thing, you should be okay with thinking and talking about the critical context around that thing. As an engineer, I'm sure you can understand.

pinkmuffinere 8mo ago
I guess I am interesting in discussing the much narrower question. And I can see you are not yet sick of replying to me :P, so I'd like to ask your view ImPostingOnHN -- do you feel that the text of Carr's request seems on-net good? If not, what is it in the text that you object to? To be clear, I actually do find one line objectionable (and maybe you'll show me others). He calls on broadcasters to air "patriotic, pro-America content". I feel 'patriotic' is just on the line of making me uncomfortable, and 'pro-America' slightly crosses over it. I think the right to criticize the powers-that-be is quintessentially American, and asking for explicit pro-America content betrays that. But I can also see ways that both of these could be interpreted in a positive-for-humanity way, even though they don't naturally jump out to me in that way.
- ImPostingOnHN 8mo ago
  There's really no good reason for me (or you) to exclude critical context from the announcement, given that they're both "generic American politics". Plenty of bad reasons though. If you want to discuss "generic American politics", however, I have some questions already posed to you earlier which you thusfar have ignored because they were "generic American politics".