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2560x1440 on my 27" iMac is ok, but I have to use CMD-+ on almost all web pages. Only in Safari is Magic Touchpad zooming smooth and iOS like, but I'd like to u
by Flow 14y ago
2560x1440 on my 27" iMac is ok, but I have to use CMD-+ on almost all web pages. Only in Safari is Magic Touchpad zooming smooth and iOS like, but I'd like to use Chrome.
With 175% zoom I get some weird(and reported) errors in Chrome: http://imgur.com/TCDMj http://imgur.com/TCDMj
The HiDPI solution in ML is not really a solution for resolutions that are somewhere in-between normal DPI and HiDPI.
- ghshephard 14y agoAre you running Windows XP under BootCamp? I could see Windows XP being okay at 27" @2560x1440.
- Flow 14y agoNo, Mountain Lion. I am a bit disappointed since NeXT had Display Postscript back in the 80s and today we use bitmap icons far too much.
- podperson 14y agoNeXT had bitmap icons (TIFFs) displayed using display postscript. The problem with vector graphics in icons is that you'll still need multiple versions for different resolutions or the icons will look terrible at most resolutions, and then it's horribly inefficient to render them on-the-fly all the time so you'll end up caching them in memory and rescaling them... and -- oh look -- bitmaps.
- calinet6 14y agoWell, eventually it's going to come out as a bitmap—they'll still end up as pixels on the screen. Vector icons just give you the flexibility to do it really really well. Cache them, prerender them, I don't care what works best, just match the icon DPI to the screen DPI and we're good.
- mikeash 14y agoHis point is that it's not good enough to simply match the DPIs and render. Small icons need actual visual differences, not just scaling, in order to really look good. Some icons completely change their character at small sizes, because what looks good when small is not the same as what looks good when large, regardless of DPI. So going pure-vector doesn't completely solve the problem, although it certainly can make it easier.
- Flow 14y agoBut by chosing a certain style to all UI elements, vector icons could look and feel just smashing anyway.
- bryanlarsen 14y agoThat's true at low-DPI, but not so much at high-DPI. I wonder if a bundle of low-DPI bitmap + a vector for high-DPI would work better than the standard practice of bundling multiple bitmaps...
- mikeash 14y agoI think it's still true, although less so. Certainly a certain amount of fiddling takes place in an attempt to align to pixels etc., but sometimes icons just need to change at different physical sizes. Small elements may need to be enlarged to remain visible and such.
- seanmcdirmid 14y agoThere is that, and there is also the quality of how aliasing is handled by real time vector art renderers. We just aren't their yet to be relying on vector art for icons (even though they start out that way in Illustrator).
- reeses 14y agoQuartz2d is effectively "Display PDF". Bitmap icons are necessary (at least in the icon portfolio) as they can degrade more gracefully at lower pixel counts. NeXTStep/OpenStep used bitmap icons.
- wmf 14y agoIf your eyesight isn't good enough to handle low-DPI, you may want to investigate the accessibility control panel.
- Flow 14y agoThere's nothing there to force a minimum font size.
- wmf 14y agoBecause that would break every app. But you can zoom the whole screen.
- Flow 14y agoYes, and that is exactly the problem. The iMac's size and resolution is awkward-DPI. I enabled HiDPI mode, but then I got 1280x720 on 27"... And without it much of the texts on web pages are too small. You make it sound like I'm blind or something. I'm just tired of reading far too small texts.
- wmf 14y agoI'm pretty sure HiDPI mode and accessibility zooming are not the same thing. 100 DPI is pretty much the industry standard, so if it feels awkward to you then it's not a problem with the iMac per se.
- Flow 14y agoThe size of the display makes you increase the distance, or one would get chronic neck pain quite fast. :)