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I have no sympathy for Khamenei, but, if that is allowed we should not be surprised if Denmark prime minister is next?

by sega_sai 8mo ago

Alifatisk 8mo ago
Of all options, why would Denmarks prime minister be next?
- jonathanstrange 8mo ago
  Refusal to hand over Greenland. (I'm not saying it's plausible, just want to explain the rationale.)
  - morkalork 8mo ago
    It does feel like we're on a slippery slope though. Normalizing and supporting the violation of international norms because 'they were bad guys and deserved it' is like turning a blind eye to corruption when its people you agree with. It doesn't lead anywhere good in the end.
  - gib444 8mo ago
    > Refusal to hand over Technically correct but slightly loaded phrasing. It implies the USA is in the right. Denmark is /defending/ itself and its territories.
- ekjhgkejhgk 8mo ago
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  - 9864247888754 8mo ago
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IsTom 8mo ago
I don't think killing democratic representatives has as big of an effect as killing authoritarians. You can't have cult of the leader without the leader, but in parliamentary systems you'd have to off quite a few people.
9864247888754 8mo ago
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- cess11 8mo ago
  Typically jihadist denotes a militant sunni-salafist tendency, who are even more hateful against shia than non-believers. This is reflected in e.g. Aaron Y. Zelin separating his surveilling of islamic militancy respectively into a jihadology and a muqawamology web site. It is common for people in the occident to project the ideas they have about sunni-salafists onto the islamic republic, even though it is absurd. Same goes for the view that Khamenei supposedly were the one trying to achieve nuclear weapons, while his office has been the main blocker for this and secular nuclear researchers and political analysts in Iran has been the main proponents. A year ago Ali Larijani said that if Iran was attacked they'd have no choice but to build deterrence through nuclear weapons, a proposal the US and Israel apparently thought was jolly good and since have crashed diplomatic alternatives to by the crime of aggression, not once but twice. The second time they also removed Khamenei, to really rub it in that they'd prefer for their allies in the region to have yet another nuclear armed neighbour.
petcat 8mo ago
It's an easier decision to make if Denmark's PM decides to spray bullets at 20,000 student protestors.
- sudo-umar 7mo ago
  So its okay in case of bibi?
jordanb 8mo ago
Weirdly Europe and even Canada seem to be completely onboard with all this..
- Hendrikto 8mo ago
  Having a brutal dictatorial regime that finances international terrorists on your doorstep does that to you.
  - tsimionescu 8mo ago
    Yes, all those radical Iranian-backed terrorists on Canada and France's doorsteps have radicalized them.
    - Hendrikto 8mo ago
      Citing Canada here is bad faith and you know it. For France that is unironically true.
    - TiredOfLife 8mo ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines...
  - nerdyadventurer 8mo ago
    You know who created ISIS? US
    - nerdyadventurer 8mo ago
      Please read: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/opinion/how-america-helped-isis.html?_r=2 https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/opinion/how-america-helpe...
- skywalqer 8mo ago
  Yeah, because killing murderous dictators is helpful, and it doesn't matter that much who does it. In Europe, states aren't sacred – it is the freedom of people, and when people are freed, Europeans are happy even if it includes breaking the sovereignty of some terror state. I'm not saying I like Trump, but when he kills evil dictators, I can't complain. (There was 10k+ protesters killed in Iran recently) There is huge potential hidden in Iran; it has always had a huge influence over the region and possibly the whole world.
booleandilemma 8mo ago
You realize what a bad guy he was, right? Read the list of human rights violations in Iran here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Re... and tell us something the prime minister of Denmark has done to deserve assassination. I swear half the people on the internet are crazy. You all would be defending Hitler if he was killed today. "Just because he was bad doesn't give us the right to kill him". You people should hear yourselves.
- sega_sai 8mo ago
  Do you think that he was killed because of human right violations? I do not think so. The current US administration does not seem very concerned with those.
- Cyph0n 8mo ago
  You realize that international law exists, right? Or are we now OK with devolving into a world where assassinating heads of state and cabinet members is applauded?
scottoreily 8mo ago
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I have no sympathy for Khamenei, but, if that is allowed we should not be surprised if Denmark prime minister is next?

Alifatisk 8mo ago

Of all options, why would Denmarks prime minister be next?

jonathanstrange 8mo ago
Refusal to hand over Greenland. (I'm not saying it's plausible, just want to explain the rationale.)
- morkalork 8mo ago
  It does feel like we're on a slippery slope though. Normalizing and supporting the violation of international norms because 'they were bad guys and deserved it' is like turning a blind eye to corruption when its people you agree with. It doesn't lead anywhere good in the end.
- gib444 8mo ago
  > Refusal to hand over Technically correct but slightly loaded phrasing. It implies the USA is in the right. Denmark is /defending/ itself and its territories.
ekjhgkejhgk 8mo ago
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- 9864247888754 8mo ago
  [flagged]

IsTom 8mo ago

I don't think killing democratic representatives has as big of an effect as killing authoritarians. You can't have cult of the leader without the leader, but in parliamentary systems you'd have to off quite a few people.

9864247888754 8mo ago

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cess11 8mo ago
Typically jihadist denotes a militant sunni-salafist tendency, who are even more hateful against shia than non-believers. This is reflected in e.g. Aaron Y. Zelin separating his surveilling of islamic militancy respectively into a jihadology and a muqawamology web site. It is common for people in the occident to project the ideas they have about sunni-salafists onto the islamic republic, even though it is absurd. Same goes for the view that Khamenei supposedly were the one trying to achieve nuclear weapons, while his office has been the main blocker for this and secular nuclear researchers and political analysts in Iran has been the main proponents. A year ago Ali Larijani said that if Iran was attacked they'd have no choice but to build deterrence through nuclear weapons, a proposal the US and Israel apparently thought was jolly good and since have crashed diplomatic alternatives to by the crime of aggression, not once but twice. The second time they also removed Khamenei, to really rub it in that they'd prefer for their allies in the region to have yet another nuclear armed neighbour.

petcat 8mo ago

It's an easier decision to make if Denmark's PM decides to spray bullets at 20,000 student protestors.

sudo-umar 7mo ago
So its okay in case of bibi?

jordanb 8mo ago

Weirdly Europe and even Canada seem to be completely onboard with all this..

Hendrikto 8mo ago
Having a brutal dictatorial regime that finances international terrorists on your doorstep does that to you.
- tsimionescu 8mo ago
  Yes, all those radical Iranian-backed terrorists on Canada and France's doorsteps have radicalized them.
  - Hendrikto 8mo ago
    Citing Canada here is bad faith and you know it. For France that is unironically true.
  - TiredOfLife 8mo ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines...
- nerdyadventurer 8mo ago
  You know who created ISIS? US
  - nerdyadventurer 8mo ago
    Please read: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/opinion/how-america-helped-isis.html?_r=2 https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/02/opinion/how-america-helpe...
skywalqer 8mo ago
Yeah, because killing murderous dictators is helpful, and it doesn't matter that much who does it. In Europe, states aren't sacred – it is the freedom of people, and when people are freed, Europeans are happy even if it includes breaking the sovereignty of some terror state. I'm not saying I like Trump, but when he kills evil dictators, I can't complain. (There was 10k+ protesters killed in Iran recently) There is huge potential hidden in Iran; it has always had a huge influence over the region and possibly the whole world.

booleandilemma 8mo ago

You realize what a bad guy he was, right? Read the list of human rights violations in Iran here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Republic_of_Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_Islamic_Re... and tell us something the prime minister of Denmark has done to deserve assassination. I swear half the people on the internet are crazy. You all would be defending Hitler if he was killed today. "Just because he was bad doesn't give us the right to kill him". You people should hear yourselves.

sega_sai 8mo ago
Do you think that he was killed because of human right violations? I do not think so. The current US administration does not seem very concerned with those.
Cyph0n 8mo ago
You realize that international law exists, right? Or are we now OK with devolving into a world where assassinating heads of state and cabinet members is applauded?

scottoreily 8mo ago

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