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I think the point being made is that there's wider fallout than just what's directly affected. If you go to Syria and ask Syrians how they feel about the affect
by AlecSchueler 8mo ago
I think the point being made is that there's wider fallout than just what's directly affected. If you go to Syria and ask Syrians how they feel about the affects on the wider region they might not so readily agree. Or even ask Iraqis in the border region who lived through ISIS rule.
- baxtr 8mo agoI got the point. I’m challenging the causal chain. I don’t think anyone would agree that the crusades in the Middle Ages caused the current state of the Middle East. There is no way you can prove one or the other side. We can’t do controlled experiments with other worlds. So it’s all guesswork. That’s why I’m challenging. I think that things are much less causally connected as people want to believe.
- bonsai_spool 8mo ago> I don’t think anyone would agree that the crusades in the Middle Ages caused the current state of the Middle East. I think the Crusades have not yet ended… And it is not clear that fewer people died following the US interventions than would have had Iraq been left to its own.
- padjo 8mo agoHegseth certainly doesn't given his book title
- 627467 8mo agoWhy go back 100s of years for explanations when 2003 is just over 20 years ago?
- baxtr 8mo agoYou see that’s exactly my point. If you can go back 20 years, you can do that 5 times and end up at 100.