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People forget Anthropic made a deal with PALANTIR. And when this was caught, they just spinned the PR to their favor. While OAI may not be seen as the good guys

People forget Anthropic made a deal with PALANTIR. And when this was caught, they just spinned the PR to their favor. While OAI may not be seen as the good guys, I really hope people see the god complex of Dario and what Anthropic has done.

anon12345678901 7mo ago
Right. My understanding is that the Palantir deployment of Anthropic models was intended for in-theater use on classified systems.
- user3939382 7mo ago
  Welcome to the theater ie Earth.
- Archonical 7mo ago
  Palantir is a glorified data aggregation/data visualization platform. Hooking up Claude to different data systems, with safeguards turned on in Claude Gov, is different than what the government is asking from them now. Similar to if the government had Claude hooked up to Tableau/some salesforce derivative and then asked it to be autonomous in the kill loop/spy on US citizens.
  - ozmodiar 7mo ago
    "Glorified" is underselling it. Thier ability to microtarget anyone based on any trait is basically the death of democratic discourse. Now, if you're saying the data is just there for anyone to do this, you're correct, and society needs to understand that and what it means.
    - stevenhuang 7mo ago
      That is not how Gotham works. The data you're talking about is most definitely not "just there" for anyone to have. The data is provided by the military and IC, Gotham is the data viz layer to make sense of it all. It does nothing on its own. Again, palantir isn't what you think it is.
stevenhuang 7mo ago
You don't understand what palantir does.
- kouteiheika 7mo ago
  Direct quote from their CEO: > Our product is used on occasion to kill people. Doesn't get any more clear than this.
  - stevenhuang 7mo ago
    In the same way operating systems are used on occasion to kill people. My point stands, you don't understand what palantir does. Palantir (Gotham) is a glorified data analytics platform. Gotham does nothing without the privileged data feeds that the IC provides. All Gotham does is process the collected data provided by the military and IC. Palantir is only a data vis platform. What part about this don't you get? You are tilting at windmills and directing your criticisms at the wrong level. If you want change, change the laws and institutions that allow for this sort of data collection in the first place (of which palantir and orgs like it are not involved with).
ActorNightly 7mo ago
I really hope that you realize that your propaganda machine is super easy to spot.
- germandiago 7mo ago
  Awful. Just saw the account is 17 days old and all comments are about Anthropic in this same way.

anon12345678901 7mo ago

Right. My understanding is that the Palantir deployment of Anthropic models was intended for in-theater use on classified systems.

user3939382 7mo ago
Welcome to the theater ie Earth.
Archonical 7mo ago
Palantir is a glorified data aggregation/data visualization platform. Hooking up Claude to different data systems, with safeguards turned on in Claude Gov, is different than what the government is asking from them now. Similar to if the government had Claude hooked up to Tableau/some salesforce derivative and then asked it to be autonomous in the kill loop/spy on US citizens.
- ozmodiar 7mo ago
  "Glorified" is underselling it. Thier ability to microtarget anyone based on any trait is basically the death of democratic discourse. Now, if you're saying the data is just there for anyone to do this, you're correct, and society needs to understand that and what it means.
  - stevenhuang 7mo ago
    That is not how Gotham works. The data you're talking about is most definitely not "just there" for anyone to have. The data is provided by the military and IC, Gotham is the data viz layer to make sense of it all. It does nothing on its own. Again, palantir isn't what you think it is.

stevenhuang 7mo ago

You don't understand what palantir does.

kouteiheika 7mo ago
Direct quote from their CEO: > Our product is used on occasion to kill people. Doesn't get any more clear than this.
- stevenhuang 7mo ago
  In the same way operating systems are used on occasion to kill people. My point stands, you don't understand what palantir does. Palantir (Gotham) is a glorified data analytics platform. Gotham does nothing without the privileged data feeds that the IC provides. All Gotham does is process the collected data provided by the military and IC. Palantir is only a data vis platform. What part about this don't you get? You are tilting at windmills and directing your criticisms at the wrong level. If you want change, change the laws and institutions that allow for this sort of data collection in the first place (of which palantir and orgs like it are not involved with).

ActorNightly 7mo ago

I really hope that you realize that your propaganda machine is super easy to spot.

germandiago 7mo ago
Awful. Just saw the account is 17 days old and all comments are about Anthropic in this same way.