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Are they cheering killing of dozens of school children as well?

by aaa_aaa 7mo ago

thomassmith65 7mo ago
No, obviously. Actually, they will probably assume the IRGC killed them to blame the West. I don't believe that, but the Iranians can't stand the regime.
- aaa_aaa 7mo ago
  When numbers hit tens of thousands maybe they will.
  - throwawayheui57 7mo ago
    They have already, were you asleep?
idiotsecant 7mo ago
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pinkmuffinere 7mo ago
Nobody is happy about killing civilians. But Khamenei did more than that every day he was alive. Personally I feel there is some amount of immediate civilian casualty that is worth putting a stop to continuous suffering.
- heavyset_go 7mo ago
  It's easy to excuse the collateral damage of people you will never meet, just remember that this reasoning has unleashed hell on Earth for countless innocent people, many kids, and it makes you sound like a ghoul. Hope to hell that you or anyone you care about isn't on the receiving end of such sentiments.
  - khazhoux 7mo ago
    It's not "easy" but it remains true. We can play the moral-decision game and I'll ask you whether killing one child is justified to save 5,000,000. If you answer "yes" then from that point it's just about agreeing on numbers.
    - heavyset_go 7mo ago
      How many schools need to be blown up with children inside for you to say "Hey, maybe this didn't have to happen this way"
      - pinkmuffinere 7mo ago
        What is the alternative you propose? Just to give a hypothetical-but-realistic example, let’s presume that khamenei’s continued existence results in 100 civilian deaths per day. Under that assumption, what one-time cost would you accept to end his life?
        elihu 7mo ago
        Whether or not one would accept deaths of civilians to get rid of Khamenei, I don't think anyone should accept a school full of children being blown up for no obvious reason. If there was somehow a reason why Khameni could not have killed without attacking that school, then those reasons should be plainly spelled out and evidence presented. As things stand with the limited information we have now, it just looks like a war crime with no strategic upside.
  - throwaway3060 7mo ago
    I remember that the alternative has also unleashed hell on Earth for countless innocent people. At some point, you have to take the path that offers at least some hope for the future. To turn into something that has lost all hope - there is no fixing that.
    - heavyset_go 7mo ago

Are they cheering killing of dozens of school children as well?

by aaa_aaa 7mo ago

Are they cheering killing of dozens of school children as well?

No, obviously. Actually, they will probably assume the IRGC killed them to blame the West. I don't believe that, but the Iranians can't stand the regime.

aaa_aaa 7mo ago
When numbers hit tens of thousands maybe they will.
- throwawayheui57 7mo ago
  They have already, were you asleep?

idiotsecant 7mo ago

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pinkmuffinere 7mo ago

Nobody is happy about killing civilians. But Khamenei did more than that every day he was alive. Personally I feel there is some amount of immediate civilian casualty that is worth putting a stop to continuous suffering.

heavyset_go 7mo ago
It's easy to excuse the collateral damage of people you will never meet, just remember that this reasoning has unleashed hell on Earth for countless innocent people, many kids, and it makes you sound like a ghoul. Hope to hell that you or anyone you care about isn't on the receiving end of such sentiments.
- khazhoux 7mo ago
  It's not "easy" but it remains true. We can play the moral-decision game and I'll ask you whether killing one child is justified to save 5,000,000. If you answer "yes" then from that point it's just about agreeing on numbers.
  - heavyset_go 7mo ago
    How many schools need to be blown up with children inside for you to say "Hey, maybe this didn't have to happen this way"
    - pinkmuffinere 7mo ago
      What is the alternative you propose? Just to give a hypothetical-but-realistic example, let’s presume that khamenei’s continued existence results in 100 civilian deaths per day. Under that assumption, what one-time cost would you accept to end his life?
      - elihu 7mo ago
        Whether or not one would accept deaths of civilians to get rid of Khamenei, I don't think anyone should accept a school full of children being blown up for no obvious reason. If there was somehow a reason why Khameni could not have killed without attacking that school, then those reasons should be plainly spelled out and evidence presented. As things stand with the limited information we have now, it just looks like a war crime with no strategic upside.
- throwaway3060 7mo ago
  I remember that the alternative has also unleashed hell on Earth for countless innocent people. At some point, you have to take the path that offers at least some hope for the future. To turn into something that has lost all hope - there is no fixing that.
  - heavyset_go 7mo ago