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Nobody cherry-picked anything. Per capita, single-event, it's the number that answers the claim that was actually made — that October 7th was a "blip." What y
by dijit 8mo ago
Nobody cherry-picked anything. Per capita, single-event, it's the number that answers
the claim that was actually made — that October 7th was a "blip."
What you're doing now is a different argument entirely: aggregate conflict deaths over
77 years vs. one morning. That's not context, it's a category error dressed up as one.
For what it's worth, the full Palestinian death toll since 1948 is ~136,000 [1] — a
Palestinian source, so spare me the bias complaint. That's across eight decades, multiple Arab-Israeli wars, three intifadas, and several state actors. October 7th still isn't a blip. It's a massacre inside a war.
Which is exactly what everyone's been saying.
[1] https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/145161 https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/145161
- Supermancho 8mo ago> What you're doing now is a different argument entirely: I've not made an argument. I've provided the proper context that supports the original point. >> Considering the scale of suffering caused by this conflict, - Jasonadrury your response: > That's not context, it's a category error dressed up as one. You have shifted goalposts in every post. The context was the conflict in aggregate. Continue arguing with yourself. It's not compelling.
- dijit 8mo ago"I've not made an argument" is a fascinating claim immediately after quoting someone who used aggregate scale to call October 7th a "blip"- and agreeing with them. Providing context in support of a conclusion is making an argument. That's what arguments are. The goalposts that moved: "blip" (single event framing) -> "scale of the conflict" (aggregate framing) -> "I wasn't arguing anything." Three posts, three different claims, now apparently none of them count. Noted.
- whycome 8mo agoWhat’s an ‘event’?
- dijit 8mo ago... A discrete incident with a defined start, end, perpetrator and location. (As opposed to a 77-year conflict involving multiple states, wars and actors.) Now ask me one on sport.
- tovej 8mo agoThat is pretty much the definition of cherry picking right there. You sure have a big stake in defending a genocide, Jan.
- dijit 8mo agoThe OCHA data is linked above. Read it or don't.