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> The Baltics withdrawing from the Ottawa treaty was an absolute disgrace. Indefensible. It is entirely defensible on account of wanting to reduce risk of bein
by matkoniecz 8mo ago
> The Baltics withdrawing from the Ottawa treaty was an absolute disgrace. Indefensible.
It is entirely defensible on account of wanting to reduce risk of being invaded by Russia.
PS: Poland also exited the treaty. I entirely support use of mines on territory of mu country for purposes such as reducing risk of Russian invading Poland again. Though deployment should not be premature.
But I hope that production and stockpiling of enough mines is ongoing.
If you think that is indefensible - are you aware of how WW II went for Baltics, Poland, Belarus? In Poland about 16% of population was murdered, in Belarus about 20% of population was murdered. And Poland and Baltics got decades of occupation on top of that. Belarus still has not managed to get from Russia's boot as of 2026.
- wesselbindt 8mo agoThe idea that all means, including war crimes, are warranted in defending one's territory is one that I cannot accept.
- matkoniecz 8mo agoAnd I have no problem with position "war crimes are not OK". War crimes are bad, but using ATP land mines is not a war crime by itself. For example ATP land mines with reliable self-destruction used properly are OK (yes, some failure rate will exist - in case of war you rarely have 100% sunshine and rainbows solutions). While dropping randomly land mines over city to target civilians is bad, evil, war crime and terrorism.