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What a gift to the deeply unpopular Iranian regime. Nothing galvanizes support for whatever-you-have more than an external threat. Think about it. If someone a

by api 7mo ago

What a gift to the deeply unpopular Iranian regime. Nothing galvanizes support for whatever-you-have more than an external threat. Think about it. If someone actually bombed or invaded the continental US you'd have woke libs cheering for Donald Trump. The Iranian regime may fall, but it'll be like Iraq. We'll get something like ISIS out of it, or worse, and the place will be a complete basketcase of civil war for 25+ years. Or we'll be there for 25 years in another "forever war." Bravo.

Acrobatic_Road 7mo ago
Do you have any better ideas or is it your position that evil dictators get to rule forever?
- beeflet 7mo ago
  how about a negotiating a peace deal between the Israel and Iran wherein they both agree to give up nuclear weapons and allow for IAEA inspections
- wafflemaker 7mo ago
  >Do you have any better ideas or is it your position that evil dictators get to rule forever? If president Trump doesn't declare martial law, start a civil war, military coup or change the constitution of the USA, he will stop ruling in 3 years. We can wait that long.
- HNisCIS 7mo ago
  Things were starting to come undone naturally then we decided to 3rd party the whole thing Do you think the people fighting ICE in the streets of Minneapolis would welcome a joint Chinese+North Korean decapitation strike on Washington and cruise missiles flying over Portland?
- api 7mo ago
  The Iranian people overthrow their government and establish what they want? My point is that an outside force coming in will help the current regime and/or the ideas behind it. Even if the current regime falls, democratic or pro-Western ideas in Iran will be seen as aligned with the invading force and rejected by many people who might otherwise be open to them. Is there anyone who likes being invaded by a foreign power, ever?
  - card_zero 7mo ago
    The British in 1688 (Glorious Revolution, when they were invaded by the Dutch).
- fyredge 7mo ago
  Provide aid to the local population and provide support to grassroots resistance. Things do not need to be flashy to be effective
_zagj 7mo ago
> Think about it. If someone actually bombed or invaded the continental US you'd have woke libs cheering for Donald Trump. Judging by how they responded to the assassination attempt(s) on Trump and the assassination of Charlie Kirk, I don't really believe that.
- beeflet 7mo ago
  most liberals do not support the assassination of politicians. after the guy got killed, there was a massive search on social media where right wingers were looking for anyone who mocked him, and they got like a handful of people.
- deleted 7mo ago
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- api 7mo ago
  You're mistaking attention bait on social media for majority opinion. Almost nobody IRL sympathized with Kirk's shooter or wants to see people shot. Social media is brain poison.
flyinglizard 7mo ago
One of the main reasons Iraq is like Iraq is the Iranian meddling and their proxy organizations which operate in Iraq with impunity. The Iraqi government is entirely subservient to the Iranians. As the recent wave of protests in Iran came after the 12 days where Iranian regime was dealt a massive blow, I think your analysis is wrong. Iranians consider this an opportunity. Also, the scale of violence unleashed on the Iranian public by the regime is staggering; it’s not about the regime being simply “unpopular”.
seattle_spring 7mo ago
> Think about it. If someone actually bombed or invaded the continental US you'd have woke libs cheering for Donald Trump. Huh? If anything, he'd try to put blame on "Antifa" and "the radical left."
mint5 7mo ago
>“Think about it. If someone actually bombed or invaded the continental US you'd have woke libs cheering for Donald Trump” I think this is a scenario Steven miller fantasizes about while playing with action figures but that’s the closest it gets to being real. Sure derogatory terms for liberals, as you term the left, would support the armed forces if China invaded hawaii but expecting them to also support Trump is fantasy. Like supporting America and supporting Donald Trump are entirely different matters and usually divergent.

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Acrobatic_Road 7mo ago

Do you have any better ideas or is it your position that evil dictators get to rule forever?

beeflet 7mo ago
how about a negotiating a peace deal between the Israel and Iran wherein they both agree to give up nuclear weapons and allow for IAEA inspections
wafflemaker 7mo ago
>Do you have any better ideas or is it your position that evil dictators get to rule forever? If president Trump doesn't declare martial law, start a civil war, military coup or change the constitution of the USA, he will stop ruling in 3 years. We can wait that long.
HNisCIS 7mo ago
Things were starting to come undone naturally then we decided to 3rd party the whole thing Do you think the people fighting ICE in the streets of Minneapolis would welcome a joint Chinese+North Korean decapitation strike on Washington and cruise missiles flying over Portland?
api 7mo ago
The Iranian people overthrow their government and establish what they want? My point is that an outside force coming in will help the current regime and/or the ideas behind it. Even if the current regime falls, democratic or pro-Western ideas in Iran will be seen as aligned with the invading force and rejected by many people who might otherwise be open to them. Is there anyone who likes being invaded by a foreign power, ever?
- card_zero 7mo ago
  The British in 1688 (Glorious Revolution, when they were invaded by the Dutch).
fyredge 7mo ago
Provide aid to the local population and provide support to grassroots resistance. Things do not need to be flashy to be effective

_zagj 7mo ago

> Think about it. If someone actually bombed or invaded the continental US you'd have woke libs cheering for Donald Trump. Judging by how they responded to the assassination attempt(s) on Trump and the assassination of Charlie Kirk, I don't really believe that.

beeflet 7mo ago
most liberals do not support the assassination of politicians. after the guy got killed, there was a massive search on social media where right wingers were looking for anyone who mocked him, and they got like a handful of people.
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api 7mo ago
You're mistaking attention bait on social media for majority opinion. Almost nobody IRL sympathized with Kirk's shooter or wants to see people shot. Social media is brain poison.

flyinglizard 7mo ago

One of the main reasons Iraq is like Iraq is the Iranian meddling and their proxy organizations which operate in Iraq with impunity. The Iraqi government is entirely subservient to the Iranians. As the recent wave of protests in Iran came after the 12 days where Iranian regime was dealt a massive blow, I think your analysis is wrong. Iranians consider this an opportunity. Also, the scale of violence unleashed on the Iranian public by the regime is staggering; it’s not about the regime being simply “unpopular”.

seattle_spring 7mo ago

> Think about it. If someone actually bombed or invaded the continental US you'd have woke libs cheering for Donald Trump. Huh? If anything, he'd try to put blame on "Antifa" and "the radical left."

mint5 7mo ago

>“Think about it. If someone actually bombed or invaded the continental US you'd have woke libs cheering for Donald Trump” I think this is a scenario Steven miller fantasizes about while playing with action figures but that’s the closest it gets to being real. Sure derogatory terms for liberals, as you term the left, would support the armed forces if China invaded hawaii but expecting them to also support Trump is fantasy. Like supporting America and supporting Donald Trump are entirely different matters and usually divergent.