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The team that handles their PR has done an amazing job in the last 9 months

by cal_dent 8mo ago

noosphr 8mo ago
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- dimensi0nal 8mo ago
  The admin is clearly running out of steam yet you expect them to be able to get what they want next week after failing this week?
  - noosphr 8mo ago
    Ive been hearing this since 2016. Any day now.
- NewsaHackO 8mo ago
  It's funny, because even if they walk it back, they still would come out ahead in PR versus if they just rolled over. Because at that point, it would look like a hostage victim reading a statement that they are being treated well by their captors in front of a camera.
- ctoth 8mo ago
  Do you think that bad things happening is just hilarious in general? Do you like to see good behavior punished? I'm really trying to understand what you get out of making this comment. Also what happens when ... This doesn't happen? You just polluted the epistemic commons a bit more with some cynical bullshit sans consequence? Enough. I think it's time to start calling this garbage out when I see it.
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  - cal_dent 8mo ago
    Two things can be true at the same time. It can notionally be a “good” decision and also a straightforward act of Anthropic continuing their PR that they’re some sort of benevolent entity despite continuing to pursue a typical corporate capitalistic structure. It is what it is. The game is the game. But I’m not going to sit there and pretend their virtues are as pure of snow. I’m sorry that’s upset you.
ctoth 8mo ago
Hint: It's much easier to have good PR by being actually good. Though it does make people like this do the whole implication thing.
- kouteiheika 8mo ago
  Ah, right, by being actually good, as in - being okay with mass surveillance as long as it isn't being done in the US, being okay with Claude assisting in killing people as long as it isn't fully autonomous, and being actively hostile to open-weight LLMs and open research on LLMs? This kind of "good"? No, OP is right, their PR department is doing a great job.
  - unethical_ban 8mo ago
    Correct. Protect our citizens' rights, as we are the ones under the jurisdiction of our government. Yes, design competitive weapons systems that can stand up to the threats that adversary powers are creating, but do so while maintaining human control. That kind of good.
    - zinodaur 8mo ago
      It’s nice that Americans are being so open about how they feel about other countries these days.
      - overfeed 8mo ago
        "these days"? Too many countries/HNers are only just figuring out it's not fun being at the sharp-end of imperialism.
      - unethical_ban 8mo ago
        What part are you bothered about? The concept of nations?
        zinodaur 8mo ago
ternwer 8mo ago
Why? What has their PR department done? Most people are quite critical of a lot of their messaging, it's their actions that seem worth encouraging

The team that handles their PR has done an amazing job in the last 9 months

noosphr 8mo ago

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dimensi0nal 8mo ago
The admin is clearly running out of steam yet you expect them to be able to get what they want next week after failing this week?
- noosphr 8mo ago
  Ive been hearing this since 2016. Any day now.
NewsaHackO 8mo ago
It's funny, because even if they walk it back, they still would come out ahead in PR versus if they just rolled over. Because at that point, it would look like a hostage victim reading a statement that they are being treated well by their captors in front of a camera.
ctoth 8mo ago
Do you think that bad things happening is just hilarious in general? Do you like to see good behavior punished? I'm really trying to understand what you get out of making this comment. Also what happens when ... This doesn't happen? You just polluted the epistemic commons a bit more with some cynical bullshit sans consequence? Enough. I think it's time to start calling this garbage out when I see it.
- deleted 8mo ago
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- cal_dent 8mo ago
  Two things can be true at the same time. It can notionally be a “good” decision and also a straightforward act of Anthropic continuing their PR that they’re some sort of benevolent entity despite continuing to pursue a typical corporate capitalistic structure. It is what it is. The game is the game. But I’m not going to sit there and pretend their virtues are as pure of snow. I’m sorry that’s upset you.

ctoth 8mo ago

Hint: It's much easier to have good PR by being actually good. Though it does make people like this do the whole implication thing.

kouteiheika 8mo ago
Ah, right, by being actually good, as in - being okay with mass surveillance as long as it isn't being done in the US, being okay with Claude assisting in killing people as long as it isn't fully autonomous, and being actively hostile to open-weight LLMs and open research on LLMs? This kind of "good"? No, OP is right, their PR department is doing a great job.
- unethical_ban 8mo ago
  Correct. Protect our citizens' rights, as we are the ones under the jurisdiction of our government. Yes, design competitive weapons systems that can stand up to the threats that adversary powers are creating, but do so while maintaining human control. That kind of good.
  - zinodaur 8mo ago
    It’s nice that Americans are being so open about how they feel about other countries these days.
    - overfeed 8mo ago
      "these days"? Too many countries/HNers are only just figuring out it's not fun being at the sharp-end of imperialism.
    - unethical_ban 8mo ago
      What part are you bothered about? The concept of nations?
      - zinodaur 8mo ago

ternwer 8mo ago

Why? What has their PR department done? Most people are quite critical of a lot of their messaging, it's their actions that seem worth encouraging