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You can call it a 'party' if you want, but a company-wide in-person event is a) valuable, and b) expensive. Calling an all-hands a party without any supporting
by happyopossum 8mo ago
You can call it a 'party' if you want, but a company-wide in-person event is a) valuable, and b) expensive.
Calling an all-hands a party without any supporting evidence feels willfully negligent.
- baq 8mo ago$68M/10000 employees = $6800/1 employee A lot? Not a lot? Don’t know anymore.
- layer8 8mo agoAt the cited $340000 salary, it amounts to around the same as one extra week of vacation for everyone.
- dangoor 8mo agoSeems plausible. Travel (some international), hotels, taxis, venues, food, and entertainment. It adds up. Probably not a single day event.
- Scoundreller 8mo agoIf you account the employee wages into it, then it really adds up.
- mmcclure 8mo agoIt's on the high side, but...honestly not absurd? "Party" implies one night rager, but the source says "in-person company event." That seems more like a multi-day company onsite to me, and the total bill per person there probably includes travel, accommodations, food on top of any overall event costs. Bringing a remote employee to SF just to work out of an office for a few days can easily cost a few grand.
- kermatt 8mo ago$6,800 per person is absolutely absurd. If the event lasted an entire month, that's still $225 per person per day.
- x0x0 8mo agoairfare: $500, 5 nights (sun -> thur) in a hotel, fully costed: $250, per-diem of $100 6 days (fri is a travel day) is already $2350. If you rent a place that thousands can show up you'll be in for at least $5k.
- Aurornis 8mo agoFor an event where many employees have to be flown in and stay at hotels in an expensive city? That's normal. Hosting in-person events for 10,000 people is expensive even without having to transport and house anyone.
- mpeg 8mo agoI've been to all hands where it probably cost that much just in travel: business class LHR to SFO, hotel for a few nights, dinners, drinks, entertainment, venue, guest speakers, and on and on. It doesn't seem excessive, the networking in these things is often really worth it
- quaunaut 8mo agoIn what business is everyone in the company going business class?
- frutiger 8mo agoBloomberg Engineering
- mpeg 8mo agoNot everyone, but often there are travel policies where any travel more than X hours long you can book business class without manager authorisation via concur and the like. It's really worth it when you get off a 12 hour flight and have to go straight into hours of meetings without being a zombie
- nerdsniper 8mo agoThat actually sounds pretty reasonable.
- Hamuko 8mo agoCan it be that valuable when 40% of the participants aren't?
- layer8 8mo agoMaybe it served to find out which of them weren’t valuable. ;)
- darth_avocado 8mo agoMaybe it’s just me, but I think being able to retain more employees is more valuable than flying the entire company for an in person event.
- frde_me 8mo agoOne could argue a smaller number of employees that are more motivated and feel connected to their coworkersis better than a more employees that are all isolated and "meh".
- surgical_fire 8mo agoNothing inspires people to feel motivated and connected more than layoffs.
- darth_avocado 8mo agoYou have fewer people you worked with, a constant threat of unemployment and more work? Sign me up for that boss /s
- dang 8mo agoYes - more at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47185110 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47185110