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I can’t think of a single thing Meta does that isn’t driven by pure greed.

by hsuduebc2 8mo ago

ben_w 8mo ago
Yes, though Meta is a bad example as they started off with the values of Zuckerberg, and still have them.
- endofreach 8mo ago
  Exactly right. But i think it makes it a good example actually. Company DNA is a thing. Bill Gates isn't running microsoft anymore. Still...
- hsuduebc2 8mo ago
  What would be more appropriate example?
  - ben_w 8mo ago
    Apple, Tesla, Oculus. The first two are definitely "heroes who lived long enough to be villains"; Oculus is more of an "I recon" due to how it was seen right up until getting bought by Facebook. Adobe?
    - shafyy 8mo ago
      LOL, Palmer Luckey is a right-wing war mongering psychopath.
    - hamasho 8mo ago
      But in the stock market, it is almost impossible for companies like Anthropic or any successful startups not to become villains (profit first no matter what). Anthropic especially needs to burn huge amount of money, so they need a lot of funding. The only way to keep founders' idealism is probably to copy Zuckerberg. Divide stocks with and without voting-power and trade only no-voting stocks.
      - ben_w 8mo ago
        I'm not denying 95% of that, only saying that Zuckerberg didn't have any idealism to lose in the first place.
        hsuduebc2 8mo ago
        I actually forgot that his first site was facemash which single purpose was to rate "hotness" of each individual girl on his University.
        HoratioHellpop 8mo ago
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      - freejazz 8mo ago
        Anthropic is not a public company.
amunozo 8mo ago
Oh sure. I don't want to say everybody are driven by ideals and not greed, but that even people with strong ideals and good intentions can do a lot of bad by being blinded by those same ideals.
mikkupikku 8mo ago
All of Meta's VR stuff should rationally be cut loose and refunded if it were all about greed. That stuff only survives because Zuck is a nerd who wants it to happen (but it's not going to.)
- m4rtink 8mo ago
  Well, they were just totally doing it the wrong way - with the result being ugly corporate distopia. They could haver just looked at what paople are using VR for & improved it to succeed. VRChat is thriving and some other similar envronments being quite popular as well. Just give people something that they actually want and make it nice and people will like it - huge surprise!

I can’t think of a single thing Meta does that isn’t driven by pure greed.

ben_w 8mo ago

Yes, though Meta is a bad example as they started off with the values of Zuckerberg, and still have them.

endofreach 8mo ago
Exactly right. But i think it makes it a good example actually. Company DNA is a thing. Bill Gates isn't running microsoft anymore. Still...
hsuduebc2 8mo ago
What would be more appropriate example?
- ben_w 8mo ago
  Apple, Tesla, Oculus. The first two are definitely "heroes who lived long enough to be villains"; Oculus is more of an "I recon" due to how it was seen right up until getting bought by Facebook. Adobe?
  - shafyy 8mo ago
    LOL, Palmer Luckey is a right-wing war mongering psychopath.
  - hamasho 8mo ago
    But in the stock market, it is almost impossible for companies like Anthropic or any successful startups not to become villains (profit first no matter what). Anthropic especially needs to burn huge amount of money, so they need a lot of funding. The only way to keep founders' idealism is probably to copy Zuckerberg. Divide stocks with and without voting-power and trade only no-voting stocks.
    - ben_w 8mo ago
      I'm not denying 95% of that, only saying that Zuckerberg didn't have any idealism to lose in the first place.
      - hsuduebc2 8mo ago
        I actually forgot that his first site was facemash which single purpose was to rate "hotness" of each individual girl on his University.
        HoratioHellpop 8mo ago
        [dead]
    - freejazz 8mo ago
      Anthropic is not a public company.

amunozo 8mo ago

Oh sure. I don't want to say everybody are driven by ideals and not greed, but that even people with strong ideals and good intentions can do a lot of bad by being blinded by those same ideals.

mikkupikku 8mo ago

All of Meta's VR stuff should rationally be cut loose and refunded if it were all about greed. That stuff only survives because Zuck is a nerd who wants it to happen (but it's not going to.)

m4rtink 8mo ago
Well, they were just totally doing it the wrong way - with the result being ugly corporate distopia. They could haver just looked at what paople are using VR for & improved it to succeed. VRChat is thriving and some other similar envronments being quite popular as well. Just give people something that they actually want and make it nice and people will like it - huge surprise!