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I think it's often genuine excitement to share a thing - without quite processing that anybody with the same idea can now build it (for simple- to mid-complexit

I think it's often genuine excitement to share a thing - without quite processing that anybody with the same idea can now build it (for simple- to mid-complexity projects).

piker 8mo ago
This is the part I don't understand. It's like sharing a finger painting half the time. Yes, cool, but so what? [Edit: no need for the downvote, folks, it was an honest question although it seemed otherwise. I think the answers below make sense.]
- margalabargala 8mo ago
  The novelty of "new thing! That would have been incredibly hard a decade ago!" hasn't worn off yet. This isn't the first time something like this has happened. I would imagine that people had similar thoughts about the first photographs, when previously the only way to capture an image of something was via painting or woodcutting.
  - jjmarr 8mo ago
    When movies first came out they would film random stuff because it was cool to see a train moving directly at you. The novelty didn't wear off for years.
    - margalabargala 8mo ago
      There was something someone said in a comment here, years and years ago (pre AI), which has stuck with me. Paraphrased, "There's basically no business in the Western world that wouldn't come out ahead with a competent software engineer working for $15 an hour". Once agents, or now claws I guess, get another year of development under them they will be everywhere. People will have the novelty of "make me a website. Make it look like this. Make it so the customer gets notifications based on X Y and Z. Use my security cam footage to track the customer's object to give them status updates." And so on. AI may or may not push the frontier of knowledge, TBD, but what it will absolutely do is pull up the baseline floor for everybody to a higher level of technical implementation.
      - tcoff91 8mo ago
        And the explosion in software produced with AI by lay-people will mean that those with offensive security skills, who can crack and exploit software systems, will have incredible power over others.
        jpadkins 8mo ago
        are you sure that AI generated code will be more vulnerable than a median software engineer? Why?
        wolpoli 8mo ago
        I believe the security vulnerability issues will be addressed with companies using cloud based vibe-code platform or a ai security auditor agent that runs through the code base and flags security issues.
        tcoff91 7mo ago
        I think that when a software system is used by more people and has more eyes on it, it's more likely to have its security flaws be found and fixed. Then all the users will benefit from the fix. The more that software is fragmented into bespoke applications used by small numbers of people, the less people benefit from security network effects.
      - rockskon 8mo ago
        It's always a year® away. The amazing AI capability is "just around the corner"©. It will replace jobs soon™. How much longer do we have to put up with people saying this? It's been four years now.
        margalabargala 8mo ago
        The things that people were saying were a year away a year or two ago are now here. The things I am saying are now a year away, are not the things people were saying were a year away two years ago. And you're going to have to put up with it forever, because "a year in the future" has always and will always be a year away.
- mghackerlady 8mo ago
  I have a similar feeling to people who upload their AI art to sites like danbooru. Like I guess I can understand making it for yourself but why do you think others want to see it
- lm28469 8mo ago
  Because these people aren't excited about the actual building part, they crave the attention, the github stars, the views, &c. It's painfully obvious
- em-bee 8mo ago
  xkcd turned stick figure drawings into an art form. sometimes it is not about how something was created, but about the story being told. some people build apps to solve a problem. why should they not share how they solved that problem? i have written a blog post about a one line command that solves an interesting problem for me. for any experienced sysadmin that's just like a finger painting. do we really need to argue if i should have written that post or not?
wasmainiac 8mo ago
I also think it is often momentum from “do you have a GitHub” questions you see in hiring. There are many people who code to make cool stuff and enjoy sharing, but there is even more people who code to look good on CV. I’m not trying to be mean, this is just an anecdote I had from my time hiring.
epiccoleman 8mo ago
KG: Anybody coulda wrote it, anybody coulda done that, one song, just one note JB: Yeah but guess who did write it, me! KG: Yeah but did you write this? JB: Dude, I did, I told you to do the bendy every once in a while! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLvOLjHt4S0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLvOLjHt4S0
- bigfishrunning 8mo ago
  I win. 1 to nothing!

I think it's often genuine excitement to share a thing - without quite processing that anybody with the same idea can now build it (for simple- to mid-complexity projects).

piker 8mo ago

This is the part I don't understand. It's like sharing a finger painting half the time. Yes, cool, but so what? [Edit: no need for the downvote, folks, it was an honest question although it seemed otherwise. I think the answers below make sense.]

margalabargala 8mo ago
The novelty of "new thing! That would have been incredibly hard a decade ago!" hasn't worn off yet. This isn't the first time something like this has happened. I would imagine that people had similar thoughts about the first photographs, when previously the only way to capture an image of something was via painting or woodcutting.
- jjmarr 8mo ago
  When movies first came out they would film random stuff because it was cool to see a train moving directly at you. The novelty didn't wear off for years.
  - margalabargala 8mo ago
    There was something someone said in a comment here, years and years ago (pre AI), which has stuck with me. Paraphrased, "There's basically no business in the Western world that wouldn't come out ahead with a competent software engineer working for $15 an hour". Once agents, or now claws I guess, get another year of development under them they will be everywhere. People will have the novelty of "make me a website. Make it look like this. Make it so the customer gets notifications based on X Y and Z. Use my security cam footage to track the customer's object to give them status updates." And so on. AI may or may not push the frontier of knowledge, TBD, but what it will absolutely do is pull up the baseline floor for everybody to a higher level of technical implementation.
    - tcoff91 8mo ago
      And the explosion in software produced with AI by lay-people will mean that those with offensive security skills, who can crack and exploit software systems, will have incredible power over others.
      - jpadkins 8mo ago
        are you sure that AI generated code will be more vulnerable than a median software engineer? Why?
        wolpoli 8mo ago
        I believe the security vulnerability issues will be addressed with companies using cloud based vibe-code platform or a ai security auditor agent that runs through the code base and flags security issues.
        tcoff91 7mo ago
        I think that when a software system is used by more people and has more eyes on it, it's more likely to have its security flaws be found and fixed. Then all the users will benefit from the fix. The more that software is fragmented into bespoke applications used by small numbers of people, the less people benefit from security network effects.
    - rockskon 8mo ago
      It's always a year® away. The amazing AI capability is "just around the corner"©. It will replace jobs soon™. How much longer do we have to put up with people saying this? It's been four years now.
      - margalabargala 8mo ago
        The things that people were saying were a year away a year or two ago are now here. The things I am saying are now a year away, are not the things people were saying were a year away two years ago. And you're going to have to put up with it forever, because "a year in the future" has always and will always be a year away.
mghackerlady 8mo ago
I have a similar feeling to people who upload their AI art to sites like danbooru. Like I guess I can understand making it for yourself but why do you think others want to see it
lm28469 8mo ago
Because these people aren't excited about the actual building part, they crave the attention, the github stars, the views, &c. It's painfully obvious
em-bee 8mo ago
xkcd turned stick figure drawings into an art form. sometimes it is not about how something was created, but about the story being told. some people build apps to solve a problem. why should they not share how they solved that problem? i have written a blog post about a one line command that solves an interesting problem for me. for any experienced sysadmin that's just like a finger painting. do we really need to argue if i should have written that post or not?

wasmainiac 8mo ago

I also think it is often momentum from “do you have a GitHub” questions you see in hiring. There are many people who code to make cool stuff and enjoy sharing, but there is even more people who code to look good on CV. I’m not trying to be mean, this is just an anecdote I had from my time hiring.

epiccoleman 8mo ago

KG: Anybody coulda wrote it, anybody coulda done that, one song, just one note JB: Yeah but guess who did write it, me! KG: Yeah but did you write this? JB: Dude, I did, I told you to do the bendy every once in a while! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLvOLjHt4S0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLvOLjHt4S0

bigfishrunning 8mo ago
I win. 1 to nothing!