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It have worked for Google for years, and that was without even the barrier of download in app, just going to a different URL.
by graemep 8mo ago
It have worked for Google for years, and that was without even the barrier of download in app, just going to a different URL.
- kergonath 8mo agoGoogle was clearly superior fo a long time. They got close to 90% before enshitification started in earnest. We are not at that stage yet with AI chatbots. Also, Google benefited from being the default on mainstream OSes. When people have to download an application, getting one or the other does not take more effort. Yes, OpenAI being tightly integrated within Windows, Android, and iOS would be a moat. That’s not the case and it is unlikely to happen. Google will go with their own and Apple won’t put itself in a situation where they are reliant on a single company, they got burned enough times.
- DrScientist 8mo agoExactly - it was better for a long time. Also which search engine was the default was a massive factor - that's why Google paid for that. If Google hadn't controlled Chrome, and or paid for defaults - they could have pretty much lost all their traffic overnight - ( if they weren't better ).
- cowhax 8mo agoWe are at a point though where when average people think of "asking AI", they instinctively think of ChatGPT. That's a big thing. All OpenAI has to do is not fall behind too much to the point where an alternative can generate enough hype to take the crown (see AltaVista and Google)
- b3kart 8mo agoDon’t you think that’s because Google was objectively a head above everyone other search engine for a long time?
- azan_ 8mo agoIt’s not anymore (actually google is awful now) and people are still using it
- DrScientist 8mo agoAs Chrome has about 75% market share across all platforms - probably 90% of those use the google default. As far as I'm aware OpenAI doesn't control any defaults for which AIChat service to use.
- logical_proof 8mo agoCopilot?
- 111111101101 8mo agoIt took Google a decade before they released Chrome so OpenAI has plenty of time to have a Chrome moment. Maybe it'll be something that comes from the OpenClaw acqui-hires?
- DrScientist 8mo agoDuring that time - as was pointed out elsewhere - Google search was simply way better than the alternatives - embarrassingly so. It also paid the Mozilla foundation lots of money to be the default.
- arw0n 8mo agoGoogle wasn't bleeding money like crazy at the time. Google was operating in a post-hype cycle. We are most likely somewhere in an epsilon around the peak of the AI hype and OpenAI is more comparable to AOL or Yahoo. One striking similarity is the inability to innovate themselves, instead relying on copying others or acquiring. The OpenClaw guy is surely a decent product person, but OpenClaw did not innovate in any real sense. He was just pushing an existing idea to the limit without any concern for quality or security. It had its hype moment, it inspired a bunch of people, and might find its own niche, but it is a flavor of the week kind of thing. I've been getting a lot more cold-calls by non-technical people in the last few weeks thanks to it. Congratulations, the quality threshold that justifies my response rose in equal measure. Nothing was gained, just a lot of tokens spent.
- array_key_first 8mo agoAll of googles products are unique in some way and have genuine moats. The search engine was the best. The ecosystem was there and pretty good. Docs had online collaboration. And on and on.
- zadikian 8mo agoSearch is easy to monetize with ads and less expensive to operate. Unless AI services can do the same thing, they'll have to charge money at some point, and then customers will look for the cheapest.