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> The trump administration by refusing to admit the superior metrics of solar, they're just burying their heads in sand. I don't think I agree with this as it

> The trump administration by refusing to admit the superior metrics of solar, they're just burying their heads in sand. I don't think I agree with this as it suggests they are doing it because they can't be bothered about it. Instead, they are doing it specifically because their (and/or their friend's) pockets are getting filled. To me, the latter is much more sinister.

yoyohello13 8mo ago
It such obvious corruption. Trump ordered the pentagon to buy coal power specifically.
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- _DeadFred_ 8mo ago
  The crazy thing is coal mining is 40,000 jobs. I have never seen such a tiny industry given such preferential/oversized treatment. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES1021210001 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES1021210001 Lyft is 10% of the size of big coal and Amazon is over 20x larger.
  - WD-42 8mo ago
    Meanwhile the areas where the coal jobs used to exist (or still do) just had their food stamps removed or reduced. It's such a charade.
    - SlightlyLeftPad 8mo ago
      There’s such an amount of implied or perceived shame attached to using these government safety nets in America. I’d be surprised if anyone who was benefiting from them worked in coal.
      - PearlRiver 8mo ago
        And that is by design. There is a reason why people get food stamps and not just 1000 dollars on their bank account.
        SlightlyLeftPad 8mo ago
        I suppose you’re right. Now that you mention it, are food stamps similarly inflationary to having 1000 dollars deposited into their bank account?
        FarmerPotato 8mo ago
        I doubt they make any inflation in the sense "more dollars chasing fewer goods" SNAP etc makes the base-load revenue of many rural grocery stores. The food is going to be produced, and scale is better. I work with disabled SNAP recipients and it's never been easy. $1000 is um, high...
        rbanffy 8mo ago
        > not just 1000 dollars on their bank account. Conditional cash transfer programs have been extremely successful in other countries. Brazil’s Bolsa Família is one I am more familiar with and it’s studied as a success reference. The conditional part relies in part on universal healthcare, which might complicate things a bit in the US.
  - testing22321 8mo ago
    While they say it’s about the jobs, it is so very clearly about who is making how much money by propping up coal ( and other industries)
  - pjc50 8mo ago
    The UK fishing industry was cited a lot as a reason for Brexit, despite being just over 10k jobs ( https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/uk-sea-fisheries-annual-statistics-report-2022/section-1-fleet#fishers-on-vessels https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/uk-sea-fisheries-an... ) and less economically significant than Warhammer. (see the "everything is gender now" thesis: fishing and coal mining are "manly" industries, which is why they get this preferential treatment from the right-wing)
yowayb 8mo ago
I have a theory that corruption+nepotism are unstoppable forces of nature. Advanced governments only force corruption to distribute and obfuscate. I think this is why there appears to be some correlation between unpopular behavior and financial success. Government essentially erects artificial barriers to entry on behalf of the incumbent businesses that fund it.
- rudhdb773b 8mo ago
  That's why I see AI (with a clear set of provided objectives and guidelines, i.e., a constitution) as the future of government. As dystopian as that sounds, it's the only way I see to truly rid ourselves of corruption.
  - dylan604 8mo ago
    I don't know how any AI system would not eventually determine that humans are the problem. Sci-fi uses this as a plot numerous times for a reason. What humans are doing is not logical, and better choices can be made if it weren't so damn profitable for some to keep going as is.
  - jdejean 8mo ago
    Why would AI at that scale not have the exact corruptible inclination humans have?
    - rudhdb773b 8mo ago
      Because unlike natural life, which has evolved to be highly competitive and self-interested, we would explicitly set the AI's objectives to always benefit society.
      - danaris 8mo ago
        And why would the people in power be willing to do that?

yoyohello13 8mo ago

It such obvious corruption. Trump ordered the pentagon to buy coal power specifically.

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_DeadFred_ 8mo ago
The crazy thing is coal mining is 40,000 jobs. I have never seen such a tiny industry given such preferential/oversized treatment. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES1021210001 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES1021210001 Lyft is 10% of the size of big coal and Amazon is over 20x larger.
- WD-42 8mo ago
  Meanwhile the areas where the coal jobs used to exist (or still do) just had their food stamps removed or reduced. It's such a charade.
  - SlightlyLeftPad 8mo ago
    There’s such an amount of implied or perceived shame attached to using these government safety nets in America. I’d be surprised if anyone who was benefiting from them worked in coal.
    - PearlRiver 8mo ago
      And that is by design. There is a reason why people get food stamps and not just 1000 dollars on their bank account.
      - SlightlyLeftPad 8mo ago
        I suppose you’re right. Now that you mention it, are food stamps similarly inflationary to having 1000 dollars deposited into their bank account?
        FarmerPotato 8mo ago
        I doubt they make any inflation in the sense "more dollars chasing fewer goods" SNAP etc makes the base-load revenue of many rural grocery stores. The food is going to be produced, and scale is better. I work with disabled SNAP recipients and it's never been easy. $1000 is um, high...
      - rbanffy 8mo ago
        > not just 1000 dollars on their bank account. Conditional cash transfer programs have been extremely successful in other countries. Brazil’s Bolsa Família is one I am more familiar with and it’s studied as a success reference. The conditional part relies in part on universal healthcare, which might complicate things a bit in the US.
- testing22321 8mo ago
  While they say it’s about the jobs, it is so very clearly about who is making how much money by propping up coal ( and other industries)
- pjc50 8mo ago
  The UK fishing industry was cited a lot as a reason for Brexit, despite being just over 10k jobs ( https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/uk-sea-fisheries-annual-statistics-report-2022/section-1-fleet#fishers-on-vessels https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/uk-sea-fisheries-an... ) and less economically significant than Warhammer. (see the "everything is gender now" thesis: fishing and coal mining are "manly" industries, which is why they get this preferential treatment from the right-wing)

yowayb 8mo ago

I have a theory that corruption+nepotism are unstoppable forces of nature. Advanced governments only force corruption to distribute and obfuscate. I think this is why there appears to be some correlation between unpopular behavior and financial success. Government essentially erects artificial barriers to entry on behalf of the incumbent businesses that fund it.

rudhdb773b 8mo ago
That's why I see AI (with a clear set of provided objectives and guidelines, i.e., a constitution) as the future of government. As dystopian as that sounds, it's the only way I see to truly rid ourselves of corruption.
- dylan604 8mo ago
  I don't know how any AI system would not eventually determine that humans are the problem. Sci-fi uses this as a plot numerous times for a reason. What humans are doing is not logical, and better choices can be made if it weren't so damn profitable for some to keep going as is.
- jdejean 8mo ago
  Why would AI at that scale not have the exact corruptible inclination humans have?
  - rudhdb773b 8mo ago
    Because unlike natural life, which has evolved to be highly competitive and self-interested, we would explicitly set the AI's objectives to always benefit society.
    - danaris 8mo ago
      And why would the people in power be willing to do that?