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> I live in Chicago with the third-closest stop spacing per the article. I'm personally able to walk a block or two further to a bus stop no problem. Bus stop c
by miltonlost 8mo ago
> I live in Chicago with the third-closest stop spacing per the article. I'm personally able to walk a block or two further to a bus stop no problem. Bus stop consolidation would save me a lot of time over the course of a year!
Until there' a snowstorm, and no one shovels. And you have a broken leg, or are elderly, or disabled. Sure, it might save you personally some time, but we live in a society and should try to help out the one's who need help.
- kjkjadksj 8mo agoThe solution for that is offering express routes not forcing everyone onto a slow frequently stopping local bus and making everyone worse off for it.
- cozzyd 8mo agothat's right, the best solution is probably something like every other bus (excepting very low frequency buses that have fewer than 5-6 buses per hour) to only stop at every other stop (of course always including interchange points).
- crummy 8mo agoSo... Should the bus stops be even closer together?
- ecshafer 8mo agoDoes Chicago not mandate people shovel their drives ways? In most towns/cities in upstate new york you can get a fine if you don't shovel your sidewalk.
- SoftTalker 8mo agoI'm not in Chicago but where I am you have 24 hours after the snow stops to shovel your sidewalk. And realistically, they don't start handing out fines until at least a few days after that, if at all.
- Filligree 8mo agoWhat? Why do they care whether people shovel their driveway?
- JoeMerchant 8mo agosidewalk, not driveway. It's so folks can walk on said sidewalk.
- fuzzzerd 8mo agoChicago does have rules for timely show removal on sidewalks. In practice I have never heard of anyone receiving a fine even when the walk in front of a property remains uncleared for weeks on end. There is essentially little to no enforcement.
- mcv 8mo agoIt's not feasible to have a bus stop right in front of every house. It's unavoidable that most people are going to have to walk a bit. How far is reasonable, is a matter of trade-offs. It also depends on how fine grained the network is. If there are buslines every block, it's annoying if they don't stop there. But you have to walk a block or two to get to a bus line anyway, walking that bit more to get to the stop itself, matters a lot less.
- JoshTriplett 8mo ago> It's not feasible to have a bus stop right in front of every house. And this is why point-to-point transportation is almost always faster and more convenient, if you can afford to use it. (That load-bearing "if" is important, though.)
- njarboe 8mo agoSelf driving cars for hire (Waymo, Tesla, others) can be that point-to-point system that is affordable. We will just have to build tunnels to deal with the increase in traffic. Hopefully the Boring Company or someone else can get tunneling costs way down.
- JoshTriplett 8mo agoHopefully someone else, so it actually happens and isn't overpromised and underdelivered. (Also, tunnels are useful not just for the increase in traffic, but for moving car traffic away from non-car traffic, which makes both kinds of traffic safer, faster, and more efficient.)
- janalsncm 8mo agoIf you are not being facetious, what you are describing is closer to a subway system, which has the disadvantage of being very expensive.
- mulmen 8mo agoAs long as one of those points is a transit stop then yeah, robotaxis make sense. In that model you don’t need the tunnels. They make even more sense if they are a bit larger and can accommodate multiple people at once. Something like a large van or small bus.